How thick is Starmer

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Nick

Quote from: cromwell on August 03, 2022, 09:40:32 AM
Correct it was irrelevant so why did you mention what I offered to pay towards it?

If a company has broken the law why do you expect I should offer them financial help.
I don't expect you to, but you seem to think the company should help you out from their profits. In fact you say they're ripping you off. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

cromwell

Quote from: Borchester on August 03, 2022, 11:37:19 AM
Nope, Nick is right.

No he's not

QuoteThe trouble is Ollie, your politics are those of greed and envy.
Not at all I think youll find the greed is those that want to take the profits and not pay their fair share back.
And I'm greedy for nowt,you are just part of those willing to be conned that things like privatisation are wonderful,it isn't.

QuoteWhen someone makes a pound you are there with your paw out whingeing for a share.
You cannot understand my reply to Nick then,why should I pay out for a company that broke the law'who pays out if I do was the comparison.

QuoteThe problem with the lefties Ollie, is that they are incapable of acting like adults.

If you judge me a lefty is up to you,have you worked out yet in another reply why Burmah wouldnt be a good investment? Butt Kick
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

srb7677

Quote from: Borchester on August 03, 2022, 11:37:19 AM
Nope, Nick is right.

The trouble is Ollie, your politics are those of greed and envy. When someone makes a pound you are there with your paw out whingeing for a share. And when they are in trouble, as when the BP oil rig blew up a few years back and it looked as the company would go under, you and yours were nowhere to be seen.

The problem with the lefties Ollie, is that they are incapable of acting like adults.
It is nothing to do with envy. That is just a bullshit charge invented in defense of the indefensible. I personally feel no envy at all towards those who earn millions. If I won £150 million on the euromillions I certainly wouldn't hand it back, though I would bankroll a lot of causes I believe in. 

I do though believe in social justice and the rich getting ever richer whilst the rest of us keep getting poorer in real terms is an affront to social justice. It fills me not with envy towards the rich but anger at their unjustified greed at the expense of the rest of us and at an economic system that allows them to trouser ever more at the expense of all the struggling millions.

Rightwingers cannot understand this anger and childishly mistake it for envy. It is they who need to grow up.
We are not all in the same boat. We are in the same storm. Some of us have yachts. Some of us have canoes. Some of us are drowning.

Borchester

Quote from: cromwell on August 03, 2022, 06:32:17 AM
Rubbish excuse I got fined going through a speed cam did I go bleating for contributions to pay it?

You lot constantly moan about scroungers but mention CEO's on mega money or companies profiteering and it's so unfair,people protecting their income and jobs.....what!!!! We can't have that.

Nope, Nick is right.

The trouble is Ollie, your politics are those of greed and envy. When someone makes a pound you are there with your paw out whingeing for a share. And when they are in trouble, as when the BP oil rig blew up a few years back and it looked as the company would go under, you and yours were nowhere to be seen.

The problem with the lefties Ollie, is that they are incapable of acting like adults.
Algerie Francais !

cromwell

Quote from: Sheepy on August 03, 2022, 10:16:19 AM
It's called Capitalist socialism. the banks have been doing it for decades cannot go wrong the public pay for your mistakes and bonus through government on your behalf, now everybody wants a bit of the action.
Create recession, who cares, create debt who cares, just keep stacking up the debt.
Not far wrong.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

srb7677

Quote from: cromwell on August 03, 2022, 06:32:17 AM
Rubbish excuse I got fined going through a speed cam did I go bleating for contributions to pay it?

You lot constantly moan about scroungers but mention CEO's on mega money or companies profiteering and it's so unfair,people protecting their income and jobs.....what!!!! We can't have that.
You are starting to sound like you are espousing good socialist values. lol
We are not all in the same boat. We are in the same storm. Some of us have yachts. Some of us have canoes. Some of us are drowning.

Sheepy

Quote from: cromwell on August 03, 2022, 09:40:32 AMIf a company has broken the law why do you expect I should offer them financial help.
It's called Capitalist socialism. the banks have been doing it for decades cannot go wrong the public pay for your mistakes and bonus through government on your behalf, now everybody wants a bit of the action.
Create recession, who cares, create debt who cares, just keep stacking up the debt.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

cromwell

Quote from: Nick on August 03, 2022, 08:55:50 AM
Totally irrelevant to the profits of a company,

Correct it was irrelevant so why did you mention what I offered to pay towards it?

If a company has broken the law why do you expect I should offer them financial help.

Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

Nick

Quote from: cromwell on August 03, 2022, 06:32:17 AM
Rubbish excuse I got fined going through a speed cam did I go bleating for contributions to pay it?


Totally irrelevant to the profits of a company, however a company that was fined 20 billion has the right to make a profit, and share holders are entitled to a slice.


Quote

You lot constantly moan about scroungers but mention CEO's on mega money or companies profiteering and it's so unfair,people protecting their income and jobs.....what!!!! We can't have that.

I'm fairly sure a CEO on mega bucks has gone through the pain of University or the like, had years of graft and long hours to climb up the greasy pole. Whereas your social parasites who have climbed out of their greasy pit mid afternoon are not entitled to a slice of anything. 

Are you suggesting companies should have limits on their success? Perhaps you should be looking to opec, who are the ones that are not releasing the oil in order to keep the price high. 



I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

cromwell

Quote from: Nick on August 03, 2022, 04:46:41 AM
And when they dump oil into the Gulf of Mexico 20 years ago and got fined I don't know how much did you offer to pay 5p extra at the pump? No, but now they are making profit back you all bleat that you're being ripped off. Peaks and troughs, you can't have it both ways.
Rubbish excuse I got fined going through a speed cam did I go bleating for contributions to pay it?

You lot constantly moan about scroungers but mention CEO's on mega money or companies profiteering and it's so unfair,people protecting their income and jobs.....what!!!! We can't have that.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

Nick

Quote from: cromwell on August 02, 2022, 05:22:30 PM
What people do realise is BP profits have tripled in a year,why is that then?

We are being ripped off :P
And when they dump oil into the Gulf of Mexico 20 years ago and got fined I don't know how much did you offer to pay 5p extra at the pump? No, but now they are making profit back you all bleat that you're being ripped off. Peaks and troughs, you can't have it both ways. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

cromwell

Quote from: Borchester on August 02, 2022, 09:38:48 PM
What people do realise is BP profits have tripled in a year,why is that then?




Dunno.

BP lost just under $21 billons in P/E 31/12/20 and around $8 billons profit in P/E 31/12/21. And it is another 5 months until the end of the financial year ending 31/12/22, so where these figures have come from I do not know.

You are a good lad Ollie, but I can only hope that you haven't been reading the Daily Mail again?

Anyway, take my advice and if ever you feel the need to invest in oil stocks, have a word with Deppity and ask for a tip on the horses running at Kempton Park instead. You will get a better return than anything Burmah Oil can offer
Hardly surprising since Burmah oil ceased to exist 22 years ago.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

Borchester


What people do realise is BP profits have tripled in a year,why is that then?




Dunno.

BP lost just under $21 billons in P/E 31/12/20 and around $8 billons profit in P/E 31/12/21. And it is another 5 months until the end of the financial year ending 31/12/22, so where these figures have come from I do not know.

You are a good lad Ollie, but I can only hope that you haven't been reading the Daily Mail again?

Anyway, take my advice and if ever you feel the need to invest in oil stocks, have a word with Deppity and ask for a tip on the horses running at Kempton Park instead. You will get a better return than anything Burmah Oil can offer
Algerie Francais !

cromwell

Quote from: patman post on August 02, 2022, 07:34:10 PM
Did you offer to help when they almost had to pay people to take the stuff away in 2020...?
Did you?

How those poor oil companies survived is a miracle.....not.
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Did you offer to help when they almost had to pay people to take the stuff away in 2020...?
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