Violence - disease of the mind.

Started by Nalaar, August 29, 2022, 08:18:04 AM

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srb7677

Quote from: Streetwalker on September 02, 2022, 08:27:18 PMThey do but Naalars people have been infected by the zombie virus
Millions have been infected by the zombie virus. Most obvious symptom is voting Conservative. lol
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Streetwalker

Quote from: cromwell on September 02, 2022, 08:15:51 PM
None of the above,people may commit domestic abuse without being infected by a hypothetical disease,if people are violent because of some disease however they caught it is not a reason to judge.
They do but Naalars people have been infected by the zombie virus and we all know they have it and would be better looked after away from  the main population 

cromwell

Quote from: Streetwalker on August 29, 2022, 08:42:55 AM
They used to have asylums for people with the above symptoms  and thats where they should be ,with our sympathy of course
None of the above,people may commit domestic abuse without being infected by a hypothetical disease,if people are violent because of some disease however they caught it is not a reason to judge.
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Nalaar

Quote from: Streetwalker on August 29, 2022, 08:42:55 AM
They used to have asylums for people with the above symptoms  and thats where they should be ,with our sympathy of course

Would you put these people in asylums before or after they committed domestic abuse, if it was known they'd been infected?


Quote from: johnofgwent on August 29, 2022, 11:22:36 PM
I'd say it depends how they got the disease.

If the disease is spread the same way Monkeypox is spread, for example ....

Is this how you normally access the sympathy to unwell persons?
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srb7677

If someone has a mental illness that makes them more likely to commit violence, that tends to be taken into account by the legal process and by the psychological health services

It can serve as mitigation in the former and result in therapy and meds from the latter.

Generally if the mental illness is severe enough, someone could be found not guilty of a violent crime by means of diminished responsibility, though the likelihood in such cases would be incarceration in a mental health institution rather than a prison.

The test tends to be awareness of wrongdoing. If you are aware that the violence you are inflicting is wrong even if mental illness is a factor, you are likely to be convicted. But if your reasoning is so badly impaired that you are unable to discern right from wrong, you are more likely to avoid conviction due to diminished responsibility, though because you are demonstrably dangerous you would still be likely to be locked up in a secure institution.

Using serial killers as an example, these often come in the form of two main psychological types. Sexually sadistic sociopaths and some paranoid schizophrenics. The former is aware of what is right or wrong but has no conscience so doesn't care. He or she knows that what they are doing is wrong and against the law but they do it anyway because they like doing it. The fact that these people have a psychological condition would not prevent them from being convicted

A paranoid schizophrenic driven to kill by voices in his head is often so delusional that he has no knowledge of what is right or wrong. He might well be acquitted on the grounds of diminished responsibility, and end up in a secure mental health institution instead.

Some sociopaths sent to prison do end up being transferred to secure mental health institutions sometimes. And the Yorkshire Ripper, Peter Sutcliffe, is an example of a paranoid schizophrenic whose diagnosis was rejected by the jury so he was found guilty, but his condition was actually recognised within the system and he was transferred after a time to Broadmoor.

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johnofgwent

I'd say it depends how they got the disease.

If the disease is spread the same way Monkeypox is spread, for example ....
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Streetwalker

Quote from: Nalaar on August 29, 2022, 08:18:04 AM
Hypothetical. A disease infects a significant minority of the population, the infection is brief and nonlethal, however it leaves permanent an incurable damage to the infected persons brain, as a result they are prone to have short tempers, and brief violent outbursts.

Predictably this leads to an increase in domestic abuse.

Does the knowledge of the disease and it's after effects
a) Increase your sympathy for domestic abuse perpetrators.
b) Decrease your sympathy for domestic abuse perpetrators.
c) Neither increase or decrease your sympathy for domestic abuse perpetrators.
They used to have asylums for people with the above symptoms  and thats where they should be ,with our sympathy of course 

Nalaar

Hypothetical. A disease infects a significant minority of the population, the infection is brief and nonlethal, however it leaves permanent an incurable damage to the infected persons brain, as a result they are prone to have short tempers, and brief violent outbursts. 

Predictably this leads to an increase in domestic abuse. 

Does the knowledge of the disease and it's after effects 
a) Increase your sympathy for domestic abuse perpetrators. 
b) Decrease your sympathy for domestic abuse perpetrators. 
c) Neither increase or decrease your sympathy for domestic abuse perpetrators. 
Don't believe everything you think.