Prince Andrew's and Prince Harry's ability to step in for the King challenged in House of Lords

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Barry

Quote from: patman post on October 28, 2022, 12:08:48 AM
But the clott constitutional ...snip ...

PS — Words appear to be changed for no reason, so either the swear filter is getting a mind of its own, or my predictive spelling has gone berserk (c u r r e n t is bizarrely being altered to clott).
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Quote from: B0ycey on October 27, 2022, 07:25:03 PM
From what I remember the king was out of the Country for over a year at the time of his son being born and when you follow the line it led to this guy in Australia who worked on a folk lift. It was years ago when I watched it so I can't even tell you who the king was.

It is a shame Harry isn't next in line. Then we could have a dynasty of Hewitts with a black king with ginger hair 2nd in line. Only then would these snobby Royalist understand was a farce the whole thing is. The monarchy is obsolete and now the Commonwealth is being asked to bow to big ears, they are evaluating the whole affair. Why we still pay for anyone regardless of distance to do anything is beyond me. Perhaps we need some advice off the French. And yes the whole thing is out of date SW. 500 years out of date if you must know.

When I first read this I thought you must have started drinking early. What's a folk lift? What is "understand was a farce"?
"Why we still pay for anyone regardless of distance to do anything is beyond me" is difficult to understand.
But as PP has picked you up on the first line of bilge, I'll take it that you were perhaps tired and emotional whilst posting.
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Nick

Quote from: patman post on October 28, 2022, 12:26:23 AM
Royal family overseas visits are easy to check as they're put on public record.

Assuming your memory is correct, any overseas trips between would have been private as it looks like he never left the UK on official trips between 2 July 1983 and 22 February 1984. Harry's DOB is 15 September 1984.

There were no official overseas visits  recorded between 10 August and 23 September 1984...
I think he's talking George V era but his sons were born in the 1890's, way before FLT technology so I am confused also.
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patman post

Quote from: johnofgwent on October 27, 2022, 07:25:42 AM
In reality this is about a piece of legislation that determines who can deputise for the sovereign when they are ill or away.

Prince Andrew has withdrawn from active Royal work and Harry is 10,000 miles away.

it's a no brainier. The law needs changing to dump the specifics and a list nearer the reality of things put in place.
What about the Lord Lieutenants around the country — depending on what the sovereign is required to do, can't they be trained to do more than pin gongs on the deserving and escort members of the royal family round their lieutenancies...?
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patman post

Quote from: B0ycey on October 27, 2022, 07:25:03 PM
From what I remember the king was out of the Country for over a year at the time of his son being born and when you follow the line it led to this guy in Australia who worked on a folk lift. It was years ago when I watched it so I can't even tell you who the king was.

Royal family overseas visits are easy to check as they're put on public record.

Assuming your memory is correct, any overseas trips between would have been private as it looks like he never left the UK on official trips between 2 July 1983 and 22 February 1984. Harry's DOB is 15 September 1984. 

There were no official overseas visits  recorded between 10 August and 23 September 1984...
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patman post

Quote from: Barry on October 27, 2022, 10:48:58 AM
The Monarchy works for the UK and it isn't broken, but a few minor adjustments won't hurt.
I don't want a republic, they are so colourless.
They can be exiting — Macron, Putin, Trump, are hardly colourless.

But the clott constitutional monarchy model seems to suit the UK and it's other realms. And modifications are made from time to time.

I guess we'll know when the monarchy are so much out of favour and it's time to go...

PS — Words appear to be changed for no reason, so either the swear filter is getting a mind of its own, or my predictive spelling has gone berserk (c u r r e n t is bizarrely being altered to clott).
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B0ycey

Quote from: Streetwalker on October 27, 2022, 10:33:59 AM
The Aussies will do anything for beer . Im sure there are many that would have similar claim if bastards were allowed or those whos claim to the throne was dissmissed through lack of archers .

I was watching the king in the car park documentry the other day  and if Richard 3 had won at Bosworth field instead of Henry Tudor a cabinet maker called Paul who they tested for a DNA match  would be King . Alternate timelines would throw up hundreds of claimants .
But  as Jog says  , this is an out of date law though it could have been left alone for what its worth  . A waste of time for the Lords but I suppose it makes them feel important

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From what I remember the king was out of the Country for over a year at the time of his son being born and when you follow the line it led to this guy in Australia who worked on a folk lift. It was years ago when I watched it so I can't even tell you who the king was.

It is a shame Harry isn't next in line. Then we could have a dynasty of Hewitts with a black king with ginger hair 2nd in line. Only then would these snobby Royalist understand was a farce the whole thing is. The monarchy is obsolete and now the Commonwealth is being asked to bow to big ears, they are evaluating the whole affair. Why we still pay for anyone regardless of distance to do anything is beyond me. Perhaps we need some advice off the French. And yes the whole thing is out of date SW. 500 years out of date if you must know.

Barry

The Monarchy works for the UK and it isn't broken, but a few minor adjustments won't hurt.
I don't want a republic, they are so colourless.
† The end is nigh †

Streetwalker

Quote from: B0ycey on October 27, 2022, 08:08:25 AM
The no brainer is why we still have a monarchy when feudalism ended 500 years ago. I remember watching a documentary once that the rightful King was a truck driver in Australia anyway.
The Aussies will do anything for beer . Im sure there are many that would have similar claim if bastards were allowed or those whos claim to the throne was dissmissed through lack of archers . 

I was watching the king in the car park documentry the other day  and if Richard 3 had won at Bosworth field instead of Henry Tudor a cabinet maker called Paul who they tested for a DNA match  would be King . Alternate timelines would throw up hundreds of claimants .
But  as Jog says  , this is an out of date law though it could have been left alone for what its worth  . A waste of time for the Lords but I suppose it makes them feel important 

Nothing to see here .     GSTK Union Flag

B0ycey

Quote from: johnofgwent on October 27, 2022, 07:25:42 AM
In reality this is about a piece of legislation that determines who can deputise for the sovereign when they are ill or away.

Prince Andrew has withdrawn from active Royal work and Harry is 10,000 miles away.

it's a no brainier. The law needs changing to dump the specifics and a list nearer the reality of things put in place.

The no brainer is why we still have a monarchy when feudalism ended 500 years ago. I remember watching a documentary once that the rightful King was a truck driver in Australia anyway.

johnofgwent

Quote from: SKY News  on October 26, 2022, 07:00:03 PM
Prince Andrew's and Prince Harry's ability to step in for the King challenged in House of Lords

Prince Andrew's and Prince Harry's ability to temporarily step in for the King has been called into question in the House of Lords.

Source: Prince Andrew's and Prince Harry's ability to step in for the King challenged in House of Lords
In reality this is about a piece of legislation that determines who can deputise for the sovereign when they are ill or away.

Prince Andrew has withdrawn from active Royal work and Harry is 10,000 miles away.

it's a no brainier. The law needs changing to dump the specifics and a list nearer the reality of things put in place.
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SKY News

Prince Andrew's and Prince Harry's ability to step in for the King challenged in House of Lords

Prince Andrew's and Prince Harry's ability to temporarily step in for the King has been called into question in the House of Lords.

Source: Prince Andrew's and Prince Harry's ability to step in for the King challenged in House of Lords