God Bless The Postmen

[Nick]

No you need to keep up a union is the sum total of its members ergo you call the union terrorists you call the members too.

They are called members of the union, they are not the union. Hence the law that a UNION must ballot its MEMBERS before calling a strike. So it's the governing body that I call terrorists not its members.

[papasmurf]

No you need to keep up a union is the sum total of its members ergo you call the union terrorists you call the members too.

Precisely. I suspect if Nick had his way he would do the same to the unions that Adolf Hitler did.

[cromwell]

You don't agree because you obviously don't understand the inference.
I never mentioned members of any institution, and that's what you don't get.
Please keep up.

No you need to keep up a union is the sum total of its members ergo you call the union terrorists you call the members too.

[Nick]

I agree with Cromwell — using OTT language isn't going to help anyone resolve the current industrial unrest or get the population accepting short term restrictions to help put the UK back on an even keel.

It's even more counter productive than Baff and Nick putting their fingers in their ears and repeating everything's brilliant and the whole world is jealous of Britain's booming economy, brilliant trade deals, and regained freedom...

I don't need to put my fingers in my ears, everything in my world is hunky dory. 

[Nick]

No they don'tNo I don't agree because it's a ludicrous argument that compares the RCN,ambulance personnel,posties and train drivers to members of the IRA,Inla,Al Qaeda and other such killers and bombers.

Based on that statement of yours tories and supporters like you are extreme right wing Nazis.

Big ears Christmas address today praised emergency and public workers who are battling the cost of living crisis,so are you saying the king is a terrorist sympathiser?

Nick you need to stop swallowing the crap printed in the daily wail.

You don't agree because you obviously don't understand the inference. 
I never mentioned members of any institution, and that's what you don't get. 
Please keep up. 

[Baff]

And a piss poor chance they have of doing so.

None of these strikes have had any effect beyond minor inconveniences to the public and the usual outbreaks of hysteria from the Little Snoring branches of the Tory party.

This.
If I hadn't have read about this on the forums I would not have noticed.

A bunch of socially irrelevant people didn't turn up to work today. Who knew?

[patman post]

Yes but as with the drive for a cashless one, total obliteration is neither feasible or desirable, the volume may reduce but I am certain some level of demand for physical communication will persist.

Physical communication can continue if those that demand it are willing to pay.

Already, we get small reductions in monthly charges by going online and opting out of paper receipts for regular payments...

[T00ts]

Exactly.  On a forum we need to use words according to their accepted meaning.
Unions are clearly not terrorists. They stand for workers rights.

Of course they do! It's the MO I question.

[Barry]

What do you mean don't take it literally......Nick states that the unions are terrorists how else are you supposed to take it?
Are you saying you support that ludicrous statement?

Exactly.  On a forum we need to use words according to their accepted meaning. 
Unions are clearly not terrorists. They stand for workers rights.

[T00ts]

And you condone the mess the tories have made ,whose working practices include ensuring the safety and security of the country,why has the energy supply not been secured to mitigate the sky high prices and Putins blackmail threats ?

Talking of devastation, in a few short weeks Truss achieved that and if we are partly paying for privatised utilities what was the point of privatising them in the first place and why is the govt indemnifying the train companies against losses in this dispute and interfering in negotiations?

Nick gleefully tells Steve checkouts are being automated and he will soon be out of a job,the same with driverless trains and what little industry survives leaving us hostage to the one trick pony finance sector who engineered that brilliant manoeuvre and what will happen to all those idle hands do you think that they'll meekly accept crumbs thrown their way?

Since time immemorial the older generations have defied 'progress'. But forgive me for thinking that you seem to be moving the goal posts by bringing up energy. I have said it before and I will say it again - without growth you have nothing. Truss was trying to redress the balance of what has become a high tax low growth economy. She was right then and she would be right now. Her mistake was not to read the room and there are sufficient left wing conservatives and champagne socialists to have gone into a panic at the thought that she might have succeeded and the lemmings followed suit. 
This is not what the Union leaders are worried about. They aren't even really worried about the worker's jobs. Only their own. They want power. They have been quietly buying Labour and now see the way forward by persuading the man in the street that Conservatives mean chaos. It's not true. You are being lied to. The Unions suddenly saw what they thought was a weakness. They don't like Starmer but if he is a way forward to power for them then once installed they will oust him for their own choice. Read the room cromwell and all you others out there.

[cromwell]

You condone the mess that the Unions are making not just of the country but their own members' likelihood of maintaining their jobs? The Unions have their place of course. But here you are backing those whose political agenda usurps anything their members might think they are aiming for. While workers won't or can't see the need for working practices to move with the times then I despair of any utility surviving. You call them privatised - they aren't. They are partly paid for by you and me and the workers have been shooting themselves in the foot for years while holding us all to ransom.
As an aside not all terrorists have bombs - the unions are just a bit more subtle - but the devastation is nearly as big.

And you condone the mess the tories have made ,whose working practices include ensuring the safety and security of the country,why has the energy supply not been secured to mitigate the sky high prices and Putins blackmail threats ?

Talking of devastation, in a few short weeks Truss achieved that and if we are partly paying for privatised utilities what was the point of privatising them in the first place and why is the govt indemnifying the train companies against losses in this dispute and interfering in negotiations?

Nick gleefully tells Steve checkouts are being automated and he will soon be out of a job,the same with driverless trains and what little industry survives leaving us hostage to the one trick pony finance sector who engineered that brilliant manoeuvre and what will happen to all those idle hands do you think that they'll meekly accept crumbs thrown their way?

[papasmurf]

It's even more counter productive than Baff and Nick putting their fingers in their ears and repeating everything's brilliant and the whole world is jealous of Britain's booming economy, brilliant trade deals, and regained freedom...

They are both members of the three wise monkey society.

[patman post]

I agree with Cromwell — using OTT language isn't going to help anyone resolve the current industrial unrest or get the population accepting short term restrictions to help put the UK back on an even keel.

It's even more counter productive than Baff and Nick putting their fingers in their ears and repeating everything's brilliant and the whole world is jealous of Britain's booming economy, brilliant trade deals, and regained freedom...

[T00ts]

What do you mean don't take it literally......Nick states that the unions are terrorists how else are you supposed to take it?
Are you saying you support that ludicrous statement?

If anyone is at war with anyone it's the govt,the railways and Royal Mail are both privatised so why are the govt interfering?

Neither you nor Nick can justify why the train service is unable to operate without drivers working days off,why people in public service were called heroes now Nick labels as terrorists and you apparently support that.

The wealthy aren't struggling but if you mention that all you get is a load of abuse about envy.

If unions are terrorists why isn't Truss......she stuffed us all or is that the unions fault too,she's made things worse and her leaving present is to add more drones to the HoL.

The unions aren't saints but they surely shouldn't be classed along with terrorists.

You condone the mess that the Unions are making not just of the country but their own members' likelihood of maintaining their jobs? The Unions have their place of course. But here you are backing those whose political agenda usurps anything their members might think they are aiming for. While workers won't or can't see the need for working practices to move with the times then I despair of any utility surviving. You call them privatised - they aren't. They are partly paid for by you and me and the workers have been shooting themselves in the foot for years while holding us all to ransom.
As an aside not all terrorists have bombs - the unions are just a bit more subtle - but the devastation is nearly as big.

[cromwell]

Don't take it so literally. The Unions are at war with the Government and it is obvious that they will use any means they can to bring them down even at the cost of the country. How must disruption/damage are you prepared to accept?

What do you mean don't take it literally......Nick states that the unions are terrorists how else are you supposed to take it?
Are you saying you support that ludicrous statement?

If anyone is at war with anyone it's the govt,the railways and Royal Mail are both privatised so why are the govt interfering?

Neither you nor Nick can justify why the train service is unable to operate without drivers working days off,why people in public service were called heroes now Nick labels as terrorists and you apparently support that.

The wealthy aren't struggling but if you mention that all you get is a load of abuse about envy.

If unions are terrorists why isn't Truss......she stuffed us all or is that the unions fault too,she's made things worse and her leaving present is to add more drones to the HoL.

The unions aren't saints but they surely shouldn't be classed along with terrorists.