I hear on the grapevine

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Nick

Quote from: patman post on February 09, 2023, 06:51:52 PM
If you say so. But don't the carriers check visas because they know they'll have to fund accommodation and return fares if things are not correct...?
Yes they do Pat, visa's are verified when you check-in as carriers are fined for transporting passengers with incorrect or missing visa's.
The internet is littered with examples of what happens but he won't admit he's wrong.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Unlucky4Sum

Quote from: papasmurf on February 09, 2023, 06:43:56 PM
No Visa or visa infringements are common arrests.
For people intending to enter the USA, Australia, UK etc).   Not for those innocently on diverted planes.

papasmurf

Quote from: patman post on February 09, 2023, 06:51:52 PM
If you say so. But don't the carriers check visas because they know they'll have to fund accommodation and return fares if things are not correct...?
Given the number of arrests, apparently not.
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patman post

Quote from: papasmurf on February 09, 2023, 06:43:56 PM
No Visa or visa infringements are common arrests.
If you say so. But don't the carriers check visas because they know they'll have to fund accommodation and return fares if things are not correct...?
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papasmurf

Quote from: patman post on February 09, 2023, 06:34:42 PM
Not my mainstream viewing, but aren't they usually arrested for breaching importation rules...?
No Visa or visa infringements are common arrests.
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patman post

Quote from: papasmurf on February 09, 2023, 06:18:43 PM
There are TV programs on a regular basis on Freeview which are filmed at various borders,airports) (The USA, Canada, Ireland, Britain, Australia and New Zealand and sometimes other.) People with no visa or the wrong visa get taken away in handcuffs on a regular basis.
Not my mainstream viewing, but aren't they usually arrested for breaching importation rules...?
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Unlucky4Sum

Quote from: Nick on February 09, 2023, 02:51:45 PM
He's been told this many times, he will NEVER accept that he's talking rot.
I see what you mean

Unlucky4Sum

Quote from: papasmurf on February 09, 2023, 06:18:43 PM
There are TV programs on a regular basis on Freeview which are filmed at various borders,airports) (The USA, Canada, Ireland, Britain, Australia and New Zealand and sometimes other.) People with no visa or the wrong visa get taken away in handcuffs on a regular basis.
Man bites dog effect.  And anyway I've watched those programmes and it's never as simple as plane diverted.  Usually it's trying to enter the USA illegally, with illegal material or having tried to elude justice.   

papasmurf

Quote from: Unlucky4Sum on February 09, 2023, 06:14:39 PM
But you say you've never met one on duty so how would you know?  I have, more than once and it seems so have many others here that say you're wrong. 
There are TV programs on a regular basis on Freeview which are filmed at various borders,airports) (The USA, Canada, Ireland, Britain, Australia and New Zealand and sometimes other.) People with no visa or the wrong visa get taken away in handcuffs on a regular basis. 
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Unlucky4Sum

Quote from: papasmurf on February 09, 2023, 03:30:47 PM
Or as has happened many times in recent years take you away in handcuffs and put you in a cell. (American immigration officers are nasty.)
But you say you've never met one on duty so how would you know?  I have, more than once and it seems so have many others here that say you're wrong.   

papasmurf

Quote from: patman post on February 09, 2023, 04:49:56 PM
Certainly seems strange that someone who checks and prepares so thoroughly for travelling to Canada near (or through) US airspace wasn't aware of the coming new requirements for voter ID...
I am well aware of the impending requirements for voter ID but with only weeks to go before it is enforced only 10000 people out of the million who will need it have registered to get the ID.
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patman post

Quote from: Nick on February 09, 2023, 03:38:46 PM
No they do not, you're talking bollocks. Nobody gets locked up for their plain being diverted. I've showed you the evidence but you clearly can't understand it.
Certainly seems strange that someone who checks and prepares so thoroughly for travelling to Canada near (or through) US airspace wasn't aware of the coming new requirements for voter ID...
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Nick

Quote from: papasmurf on February 09, 2023, 03:30:47 PM
Or as has happened many times in recent years take you away in handcuffs and put you in a cell. (American immigration officers are nasty.)
No they do not, you're talking bollocks. Nobody gets locked up for their plane being diverted. I've showed you the evidence but you clearly can't understand it.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

papasmurf

Quote from: Nick on February 09, 2023, 02:57:52 PM
They do exactly the same but escort you to a hotel and back in time for your flight.
Or as has happened many times in recent years take you away in handcuffs and put you in a cell. (American immigration officers are nasty.)
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

Nick

Quote from: papasmurf on February 09, 2023, 01:48:51 PM
The assumes there is a flight available quickly.
They do exactly the same but escort you to a hotel and back in time for your flight. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.