Still waiting for those benefits.

[Nick]

It does, you can't even understand graphics.

I'm talking about the balance of EU versus World trade, that's what my graph shows, not the balance between import and export.

[BeElBeeBub]

The continued importance of UK/EU trade is pretty clear.

Both imports and exports have been growing steadily since 1999 (and before)

The fact the BALANCE (EXPORT - IMPORT) has been negative does not mean the EU is becoming a less important partner.

As i said, a partner can be very important even though you have a negative balance with them.

[BeElBeeBub]

To help, ONS time series in £,000's by year (Quarterly is just nosier) 

[Streetwalker]

Anyone that thinks we have full employment really does need some remedial arithmetic lessons

1,535,500 out of work and that's excl the 2.5 million shuffled off the unemployment figures for long term conditions

Maybe I should have said for those that want work its out there 

Quite there is nothing like full employment due to 7.4 million on NHS waiting list, a significant number who cannot work, plus those with long Covid.

Those who cannot work are not included .I was refering to those who can 

And of course to some the UK has 'full' home ownership . . . .

. . . . as long as no one counts all those renting, with mortgages or outright homeless etc

Never heard anyone say that 

[papasmurf]

I saw the data, it doesn't suggest what you're saying.

It does, you can't even understand graphics.

[Nick]

Are you incapable of looking for that data for yourself?
Just scroll down page at this link:-

Archive:United Kingdom-EU - international trade in goods statistics - Statistics Explained (europa.eu)

I saw the data, it doesn't suggest what you're saying. 

[Unlucky4Sum]

Quite there is nothing like full employment due to 7.4 million on NHS waiting list, a significant number who cannot work, plus those with long Covid.

And of course to some the UK has 'full' home ownership . . . .

. . . . as long as no one counts all those renting, with mortgages or outright homeless etc

[papasmurf]

Anyone that thinks we have full employment really does need some remedial arithmetic lessons

1,535,500 out of work and that's excl the 2.5 million shuffled off the unemployment figures for long term conditions

Quite there is nothing like full employment due to 7.4 million on NHS waiting list, a significant number who cannot work, plus those with long Covid.

[Unlucky4Sum]

Actually it doesn't matter jack shit . What matters is that we have left the EU . We basically have full employment and are bumping along during the years when it was always going to be difficult for some .

The big  problem is the government our unelected PM and the failure to curb migration ,the trade balance is way down the list of priorities to be addressed .

Anyone that thinks we have full employment really does need some remedial arithmetic lessons

1,535,500 out of work and that's excl the 2.5 million shuffled off the unemployment figures for long term conditions

[Streetwalker]

It is the balance that matters, again you have failed to read all of the link.

Actually it doesn't matter jack shit . What matters is that we have left the EU . We basically have full employment and are bumping along during the years when it was always going to be difficult for some .

The big  problem is the government our unelected PM and the failure to curb migration ,the trade balance is way down the list of priorities to be addressed .

[Unlucky4Sum]

Are you incapable of looking for that data for yourself?
Just scroll down page at this link:-

Archive:United Kingdom-EU - international trade in goods statistics - Statistics Explained (europa.eu)

remember that 'goods' excludes 'services'

[papasmurf]

If you don't read them yes. If you do read them you will see overall trade has increased.

It is the balance that matters, again you have failed to read all of the link.

[papasmurf]

Cut the bull, what was the total import / exports with the EU in 2011?

Are you incapable of looking for that data for yourself?
Just scroll down page at this link:-

Archive:United Kingdom-EU - international trade in goods statistics - Statistics Explained (europa.eu)

[Nick]

This latest set of stats does not paint a rosy picture.

UPTICK IN EXPORTS BUT TRADE WITH THE EU REMAINS WEAK (britishchambers.org.uk)

If you don't read them yes. If you do read them you will see overall trade has increased. 

[Nick]

Our TOTAL trade with the EU has continually grown (less global dips eg Pandemic)
Our EXPORTS to the EU have been roughly flat since the early 2010's.

Our reliance on EU trade is not as simple as % of exports, % of total trade etc.

Take my friend the carpenter
He ships felled trees to a local saw.mill
He buys milled wood from the saw.mill.
He sells wooden items to the public.

As he sells more items to the public the share of his trade is buying and selling with the sawmill has fallen

His exports to the saw.mill have been flat for a few years (he only has so much he can sell them) but his imports have increased, in part because he needs more milled wood to make his products he sells to the wider public.


Would you say the saw mill is of declining importance to him?

Would he be better off canceling his account with them so he no longer gets easy, next day ordering, a low rate on deliveries or preferred rates?

Cut the bull, what was the total import / exports with the EU in 2011?