Saddo Khan’t Costs Starmer Uxbridge

Started by johnofgwent, July 21, 2023, 07:09:17 AM

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Quote from: Borchester on July 21, 2023, 10:30:25 AM
You can do that sort of arithmetic with every election result. Another way of looking at it was that only two thirds of the electorate that voted at the general election voted in this, so it could be a lot of traditional Tory voters did not  vote Labour, but decided to stay at home. The main point is that the Tories won. As to the rest, both Sunak and Khan got their noses rubbed in it, although it is hard not to feel that the latter rather enjoys that sort of thing. :)
All sorts of equations can be drawn up from the figures presented, but I think most of us here said at one time or another that Ulez would be a stumbling block for Labour. 

Now that Starmer recognises it, will Khan be forced to back down...?
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Quote from: Borchester on July 21, 2023, 10:30:25 AM
You can do that sort of arithmetic with every election result. Another way of looking at it was that only two thirds of the electorate that voted at the general election voted in this, so it could be a lot of traditional Tory voters did not  vote Labour, but decided to stay at home. The main point is that the Tories won. As to the rest, both Sunak and Khan got their noses rubbed in it, although it is hard not to feel that the latter rather enjoys that sort of thing. :)
Point is this was a wafer thin ictory thatncouod have gone the other way very easily.

Sure itcs better for rishi than if they had lost it, but only in the way that losing your sight means you save on lightbulbs.

Borchester

Quote from: BeElBeeBub on July 21, 2023, 09:39:50 AM
The Tories held the seat by a measly 495.  that makes it the 12th most marginal seat in the country.

If you look at vote splitting Reclaim probably took 714 from the Tories but Greens and LDs took 1,433 from Labour.

This was a wafer thin hold.

It's massive damage control to spin "lost 2 safe seats and nearly lost the former PMs seat" as anything other than a good beating.



You can do that sort of arithmetic with every election result. Another way of looking at it was that only two thirds of the electorate that voted at the general election voted in this, so it could be a lot of traditional Tory voters did not  vote Labour, but decided to stay at home. The main point is that the Tories won. As to the rest, both Sunak and Khan got their noses rubbed in it, although it is hard not to feel that the latter rather enjoys that sort of thing. :)

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Quote from: johnofgwent on July 21, 2023, 07:09:17 AM
Even the Labour candidate admits the Uxbridge result - a Tory Hold and not the Labour landslide Fishy Rishi SHOULD have delivered - was thanks to Saddo and his ULEZ rollout

The BBC of course trumpet it as a two out of three trouncing for Fishy, whereas in reality the party that really should have romped home three nil succeeded in only one of three, losing quite magnificently to the rejoiners in one, and failing to topple the Boris fans in the other.

God help Starmer i say.
The Tories held the seat by a measly 495.  that makes it the 12th most marginal seat in the country.

If you look at vote splitting Reclaim probably took 714 from the Tories but Greens and LDs took 1,433 from Labour. 

This was a wafer thin hold.

It's massive damage control to spin "lost 2 safe seats and nearly lost the former PMs seat" as anything other than a good beating.

 

johnofgwent

Even the Labour candidate admits the Uxbridge result - a Tory Hold and not the Labour landslide Fishy Rishi SHOULD have delivered - was thanks to Saddo and his ULEZ rollout

The BBC of course trumpet it as a two out of three trouncing for Fishy, whereas in reality the party that really should have romped home three nil succeeded in only one of three, losing quite magnificently to the rejoiners in one, and failing to topple the Boris fans in the other.

God help Starmer i say. 
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