Rishi Sunak has 'full confidence' in Suella Braverman, Number 10 says

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Nick

Quote from: patman post on November 13, 2023, 02:45:43 PM
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The reason why many Conservatives (MPs and lay members) who'd be more at home in Reclaim, Reform, or Ukip, don't vote for them is that they know they won't win, and they don't want to leave the mainstream. But their views often echo those of Far Right parties — the leaked BNP mailing/membership list was interesting (it's still online).

The two party system has evolved because that's how people vote. If they're committed Labour or Tory, but dissatisfied with their party, they can always vote LibDem or for some other innocuous candidate that won't actually harm their party.

I don't see that Right Wingers are any more demanding or perceptive than anyone else — eg, some Labour members are unhappy with the party's stance on the current conflict in the Middle East.

Politicians in power have (or accept) ideas, say things, and issue directives and orders. That's what they do. Braverman has done more than enough. Luckily, she was outmanoeuvred by those she'd attempted to denigrate, and most citizens.

Although a surprise, Cameron's return to frontline politics could herald a return to sanity in the current Tory administration...
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Streetwalker

Quote from: patman post on November 13, 2023, 02:45:43 PM
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must be your end
Quote from: patman post on November 13, 2023, 02:45:43 PM
The reason why many Conservatives (MPs and lay members) who'd be more at home in Reclaim, Reform, or Ukip, don't vote for them is that they know they won't win, and they don't want to leave the mainstream. But their views often echo those of Far Right parties — the leaked BNP mailing/membership list was interesting (it's still online).

Keep saying the same drivel won't make it any more true Posty . Tories are not Far right in shape or form nor for that matter are Reform/reclaim.  Brexit or UKIP.   

patman post

Quote from: Streetwalker on November 13, 2023, 06:40:49 AM
They obviously don't think that Posty or they would vote for them .Breaking the two party system will take more than people leaning to the right , they will have to take a step . Us right wingers base what a person does rather than what they say and  Braverman hasn't done anything yet
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Tories from the shires with BNP sympathies ,  Jesus Posty what the feck is that ?  How about UKIP attracting  Tory voters who were pissed off with Cameron who had failed to deliver on his promises ? Thats nearer the truth than some perceived notion of a far right  5th column in Guildford
(***The quoting system here doesn't appear to be able to deal with multiples.)

The reason why many Conservatives (MPs and lay members) who'd be more at home in Reclaim, Reform, or Ukip, don't vote for them is that they know they won't win, and they don't want to leave the mainstream. But their views often echo those of Far Right parties — the leaked BNP mailing/membership list was interesting (it's still online).

The two party system has evolved because that's how people vote. If they're committed Labour or Tory, but dissatisfied with their party, they can always vote LibDem or for some other innocuous candidate that won't actually harm their party.

I don't see that Right Wingers are any more demanding or perceptive than anyone else — eg, some Labour members are unhappy with the party's stance on the current conflict in the Middle East.

Politicians in power have (or accept) ideas, say things, and issue directives and orders. That's what they do. Braverman has done more than enough. Luckily, she was outmanoeuvred by those she'd attempted to denigrate, and most citizens.

Although a surprise, Cameron's return to frontline politics could herald a return to sanity in the current Tory administration...
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patman post

Quote from: Barry on November 13, 2023, 11:34:20 AM
Funny how they say that just before they sack them. Politicians, liars, always.
It often seems like the Chinese curse of: May you live in interesting times...
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Barry

Quote from: SKY News  on November 10, 2023, 07:01:30 PM
Rishi Sunak has 'full confidence' in Suella Braverman, Number 10 says

Rishi Sunak has "full confidence" in his home secretary, Suella Braverman, despite her controversial article about pro-Palestinian marches.

Source: Rishi Sunak has 'full confidence' in Suella Braverman, Number 10 says
Funny how they say that just before they sack them. Politicians, liars, always.
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Streetwalker

Quote from: patman post on November 11, 2023, 02:37:37 PM
Hardly a few.

There are a significant number of Conservatives who'd be more at home in Reclaim, Reform, or Ukip.
They obviously don't think that Posty or they would vote for them .Breaking the two party system will take more than people leaning to the right , they will have to take a step . Us right wingers base what a person does rather than what they say and  Braverman hasn't done anything yet 
Quote from: patman post on November 11, 2023, 02:37:37 PM

Years ago when Ukip was getting the attention, it was attracting Tory votes from those in the shires who harboured BNP sympathies. They thought Ukip presented a more "decent" face for their views...
Tories from the shires with BNP sympathies ,  Jesus Posty what the feck is that ?  How about UKIP attracting  Tory voters who were pissed off with Cameron who had failed to deliver on his promises ? Thats nearer the truth than some perceived notion of a far right  5th column in Guildford 

patman post

Quote from: Nick on November 11, 2023, 04:10:11 PM
You can't resist having a dig can you, you always have to bring it down to skin colour. The funny thing is, no one on here sees skin colour except you. BNP and anti-EU views are a world apart, you see them as aligned. Remove the chip off your shoulder and get a grip.
Colour, who mentioned colour? 

If you remove your blinkers and look, I think you'll find the BNP disliked Eastern Europeans, and even depicted Poles as monkeys in an election leaflet...
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Nick

Quote from: patman post on November 11, 2023, 02:37:37 PM
Hardly a few.

There are a significant number of Conservatives who'd be more at home in Reclaim, Reform, or Ukip.

Years ago when Ukip was getting the attention, it was attracting Tory votes from those in the shires who harboured BNP sympathies. They thought Ukip presented a more "decent" face for their views...
You can't resist having a dig can you, you always have to bring it down to skin colour. The funny thing is, no one on here sees skin colour except you. BNP and anti-EU views are a world apart, you see them as aligned. Remove the chip off your shoulder and get a grip.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

patman post

Quote from: Streetwalker on November 10, 2023, 09:55:58 PM
It is a little bit ,there may be a few conservatives leaning to the right but Sunak isn't one of them . But he has to keep the right onboard so he will put up with Braverman until he thinks the time is right , probably when he re-shuffles the cabinet .
Hardly a few.

There are a significant number of Conservatives who'd be more at home in Reclaim, Reform, or Ukip.

Years ago when Ukip was getting the attention, it was attracting Tory votes from those in the shires who harboured BNP sympathies. They thought Ukip presented a more "decent" face for their views...
On climate change — we're talking, we're beginning to act, but we're still not doing enough...

Streetwalker

Quote from: Nick on November 10, 2023, 11:53:10 PM
You think he's got time? Personally I think he's a dead man walking and isn't going to shuffle, what's the point?
Even the man hanging on the scaffold has spasms at the end . A shuffle will be his spasm 

Nick

Quote from: Streetwalker on November 10, 2023, 09:55:58 PM
It is a little bit ,there may be a few conservatives leaning to the right but Sunak isn't one of them . But he has to keep the right onboard so he will put up with Braverman until he thinks the time is right , probably when he re-shuffles the cabinet .
You think he's got time? Personally I think he's a dead man walking and isn't going to shuffle, what's the point?
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Streetwalker

Quote from: patman post on November 10, 2023, 09:02:40 PM
Is that surprising? Braverman's only voicing views shared by many Conservatives and the parties on the Right...
It is a little bit ,there may be a few conservatives leaning to the right but Sunak isn't one of them . But he has to keep the right onboard so he will put up with Braverman until he thinks the time is right , probably when he re-shuffles the cabinet .

patman post

Is that surprising? Braverman's only voicing views shared by many Conservatives and the parties on the Right...
On climate change — we're talking, we're beginning to act, but we're still not doing enough...

SKY News

Rishi Sunak has 'full confidence' in Suella Braverman, Number 10 says

Rishi Sunak has "full confidence" in his home secretary, Suella Braverman, despite her controversial article about pro-Palestinian marches.

Source: Rishi Sunak has 'full confidence' in Suella Braverman, Number 10 says