Covid vaccines may have helped fuel rise in excess deaths

[Scott777]

Covid sent the immune system haywire in some cases which could explain a lot of illness post covid and post covid vaccines . Certainly some of what I have had happened in the weeks after vaccines  3 and 4 . Docs wont commit though but suggest changes to the immune system can highlight underlying problems . It could be that these kids would have lived their lives without ever knowing they had the possibility of diabetes which would never have been triggered but for covid . 

Vaccines sent the immune system haywire.  This doctor explains the mechanism.  Big risk for cancer, as predicted 4 years ago. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nhyhLVD-Hs

[Scott777]

Given the pandemic only hit about ¾ the way through 2020,

Falsehood.  Blood samples showed it hit as early as late 2019, according to PCR tests, although I think the tests are bollocks, but I'm sure you think they matter, so you need to explain that.  And I got it in February 2020.

[Streetwalker]

Hold your horse now.

All the study does is note that excess deaths were observed in 2020, 2021 and 2022.

Given the pandemic only hit about ¾ the way through 2020, the 1m deaths is undercounting the "annual" rate. Especially as there were other "dampening" measures in place eg social distancing.

If COVID had hit worldwide on Jan 1st 2020 it's likely the excess deaths would have been higher in 2020 than 2021 and 2021.

The observations is entirely in keeping with what you would expect if a dangerous virus was on the loose from 2020.

More investigation is needed though. Especially into the long term effects of "mild" COVID infections.

My friends 12yo daughter was diagnosed with T1 diabetes last year. Luckily they caught it in time, though she had to be rushed into hospital and spent a week there. The diabetes team said they had seen a big spike in childhood diabetes since COVID. They have no direct evidence but it's hard to see what else would have caused it.

Covid sent the immune system haywire in some cases which could explain a lot of illness post covid and post covid vaccines . Certainly some of what I have had happened in the weeks after vaccines  3 and 4 . Docs wont commit though but suggest changes to the immune system can highlight underlying problems . It could be that these kids would have lived their lives without ever knowing they had the possibility of diabetes which would never have been triggered but for covid .  

[BeElBeeBub]

Another conspiracy theory coming to fruition

Hold your horse now.

All the study does is note that excess deaths were observed in 2020, 2021 and 2022.

The study found that across Europe, the US and Australia there had been more than one million excess deaths in 2020, at the height of the pandemic, but also 1.2 million in 2021 and 800,000 and 2022 after measures were implemented.

Given the pandemic only hit about ¾ the way through 2020, the 1m deaths is undercounting the "annual" rate. Especially as there were other "dampening" measures in place eg social distancing.

If COVID had hit worldwide on Jan 1st 2020 it's likely the excess deaths would have been higher in 2020 than 2021 and 2021.

The observations is entirely in keeping with what you would expect if a dangerous virus was on the loose from 2020.

More investigation is needed though. Especially into the long term effects of "mild" COVID infections.

My friends 12yo daughter was diagnosed with T1 diabetes last year. Luckily they caught it in time, though she had to be rushed into hospital and spent a week there. The diabetes team said they had seen a big spike in childhood diabetes since COVID. They have no direct evidence but it's hard to see what else would have caused it.

[papasmurf]

 Ive a feeling the excess deaths though are more to do with health providers concentration everything on covid and neglecting  other treatments ,postponing operations and the like more than direct deaths from vaccines

Plus the DWP causing deaths by both action and inaction.

[Streetwalker]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/04/covid-vaccines-may-have-helped-fuel-rise-in-excess-deaths/

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/other/covid-vaccines-may-have-helped-fuel-rise-in-excess-deaths/ar-BB1nAbeD

Another conspiracy theory coming to fruition.


Those people who made anti-vaxxer jibes really will have to apologise.
Andrew Bridgen was chucked out of the Tories for asking difficult questions.

It does warrant further investigation ,as someone who has had health issues after vaccination I would welcome some honest answers . Ive a feeling the excess deaths though are more to do with health providers concentration everything on covid and neglecting  other treatments ,postponing operations and the like more than direct deaths from vaccines 

[papasmurf]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/04/covid-vaccines-may-have-helped-fuel-rise-in-excess-deaths/

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/other/covid-vaccines-may-have-helped-fuel-rise-in-excess-deaths/ar-BB1nAbeD

Another conspiracy theory coming to fruition.


Those people who made anti-vaxxer jibes really will have to apologise.
Andrew Bridgen was chucked out of the Tories for asking difficult questions.

Another conspiracy theory with no foundation.

[Barry]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/04/covid-vaccines-may-have-helped-fuel-rise-in-excess-deaths/

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/other/covid-vaccines-may-have-helped-fuel-rise-in-excess-deaths/ar-BB1nAbeD

German researchers have pointed out that the onset of excess mortality in early 2021 in the country coincided with the rollout of vaccines, which the team said "warranted further investigation".

Another conspiracy theory coming to fruition.


Those people who made anti-vaxxer jibes really will have to apologise.
Andrew Bridgen was chucked out of the Tories for asking difficult questions.