Reform On Brink Of Major Resignation As Nigel Farage Ousts Ben Habib

Started by Borg Refinery, July 12, 2024, 05:32:23 PM

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The problem I can foresee is that, after the Labour landslide victory, Farage will see himself as leader of the opposition, even though his party only has 5 seats. David Cameron paid too much attention to what Farage said and look where that got us. Kier Starmer should just ignore Farage unless, by some miracle, he has something constructive to say.
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Scott777

Quote from: Borg Refinery on July 24, 2024, 12:31:06 PM
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And one little addition to this.  Legatum were funded by Bill Gates. GB News pushed the vaccines, and didn't like the anti-lockdown protests.  I can't imagine why.  🤔  Same with Farage, Tice and Bull.  All shilling for vaccines.  GB News also likes telling us about bad weather.  It's almost as if they are planning to slowly start pushing the green agenda, which Bill Gates is also into.  Funny that.  🤔
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Quote[..] Farage and Tice have their own shows on GB News, which is bankrolled by billionaire hedge-funder Paul Marshall and Dubai-based investment company Legatum, founded by New Zealand billionaire Christopher Chandler who made a fortune in Russian gas in the 1990s. [..]
Directing Reform
Despite receiving more than £10 million pounds in donations over the past four years, Reform Treasurer and Secretary, Mehrtash A'Zami, stated at the end of 2022 that Reform had net liabilities of more than £1 million, "a significant percentage of which comes from Director's loans".
According to Companies House, there are currently just three active directors: Tice, Farage, and Reform CEO, ex-UKIP Chairman Paul Oakden, who has stated that he is worried about the supposed "globalist totalitarian" approach of both Labour and the Conservatives.
In 2008, Oakden became parliamentary agent for then Tory MP, Andrew Bridgen, but was fired after eight weeks, in part for allegedly 'spending most of his time on a dating site'. A 2016 article in The Sun claims Bridgen had said about Oakden that 'he shouldn't be in politics', branding him a 'political suicide bomber'.
Since his dramatic exit as UKIP Chairman in February 2018 – unlike his Reform colleagues – Oakden has kept a very low profile.
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[..] Reform company documents reveal a unique structure for a UK political Party which gives almost total control to its leader, Tice. The structure has been criticised for not providing the party's more than 115,000 paying registered supporters with any voting power to influence policy. Perhaps the party's funders and shareholders have more say.

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Borg Refinery

Quote from: Streetwalker on July 13, 2024, 11:43:57 AM
Its hardly a 'major resignation' is  it ?

Hardly a major resignation?

You call deputy co-leader of the party hardly a major resignation?

Fair enough
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Streetwalker

Its hardly a 'major resignation' is  it ?

The party after minimal success in the election has had like every other party does a bit of a shuffle . Those elected to parliament rightly get the top jobs and those that didn't get demoted to the ranks . Just don't see the problem thats the way it is .

We will see if Ben Habib has any backbone as a member and campaigner for Reform or was he just along for the ride as first an MEP  for the Brexit Party and the deputy leader of Reform . If he does his time will come again ,if not and he sulks off its no loss .

Scott777

Quote from: Borg Refinery on July 12, 2024, 05:32:23 PM
Maybe they can right the ship, only time will tell, but they have a lot to do to manage that. 

the Heritage Party seem closer to the real deal IF you were so inclined to vote for a pro-Brexit party; they have something resembling some principles

Principles are the key bit.  Farage / Tice have none.  They are as fake as Zia Yusuf in this interview.  I can see it a mile away.  See how he has no expression in his face, but overcompensates at irregular intervals with a fake grin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDvgiBwDQww
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Borg Refinery

Petulance is their forte ^

The infighting seems to have spread across all political parties and isn't confined solely to Reform UK. The Labour civil war, the Tory civil war, even the Green party - and definitely the Lib Dems for goodness knows how long now...

Everyone is at each other's throats, and others egg them on and bait constantly. All some do is bait.

As said, petulance is their forte
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Farage seems to fall out with members of every party he associates with, but I'm surprised it's been this quick...
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Borg Refinery

QuoteA KEY Reform Party figure has said he may quit after being ousted as deputy leader – putting the party on the brink of a major resignation less than a week after being elected to Parliament for the first time.

Millionaire Reform donor Zia Yusuf, who has gifted the party thousands in recent weeks, will become party chairman and Ben Habib has lost his role as deputy leader to former chair Richard Tice.
As the five Reform MPs take their place in the House of Commons, with leader Nigel Farage swearing in on Thursday, the party say they are aiming to "develop into the only real opposition".

Reform faced criticism over their election campaign due to racist comments made by their candidates, several of whom were dropped before polling day.
Farage said: "These appointments are the first step to ensure that Reform UK is fit and ready to take forward its positive message.


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In my humble opinion, this is not surprising in the slightest; this party appear to be in a state of constant disarray. This is IMHO what you get when you have a disorganised party with a lack of transparency/democracy in its ranks.

Maybe they can right the ship, only time will tell, but they have a lot to do to manage that. Their best bet would be to build a genuine/broad coalition of those who want to reform the political system rather than pandering to one narrow segment of the electorate

As Scott777 said in a separate thread - the Heritage Party seem closer to the real deal IF you were so inclined to vote for a pro-Brexit party; they have something resembling some principles, from what I can tell. If you want a genuine party who wants to reform the political system, there appear to be no real options at present
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