World War Two wreck in Thames Estuary is 'ticking time bomb' amid concerns of 'tsunami risk'

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patman post

Quote from: Barry on September 11, 2024, 03:11:33 PM
Seriously, no one knows the current state of the bombs and whether they are viable.

I have written to our MP (by email) asking what proposals the government have to remove the wreck. Eighty years is long enough.

These are the guys: https://smit.com/
No harm in making sure things are safe, but the link:—

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-ss-richard-montgomery-information-and-survey-reports/ss-richard-montgomery-background-information

— has the following info

While the risk of a major explosion is believed to be remote, it is considered prudent to monitor the condition of the wreck.
Surveys are carried out by the MCA on a regular basis to ensure that any changes to the wreck, or its immediate environment, are discovered quickly.
It is clear from the results of these surveys that the hull is subject to the prevailing environmental conditions and is showing evidence of gradual deterioration, however, the wreck is considered to be in a stable condition.
Some remedial work to trim the rigging and such from the masts (above the water line) was undertaken in October 1999, with the aim of reducing stress levels.
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Barry

Quote from: Streetwalker on September 11, 2024, 01:28:04 PM
So we are good to go then ?  ::)
Seriously, no one knows the current state of the bombs and whether they are viable.

I have written to our MP (by email) asking what proposals the government have to remove the wreck. Eighty years is long enough.

These are the guys: https://smit.com/
† The end is nigh †

Streetwalker

Quote from: Barry on September 11, 2024, 10:50:53 AM
When Qinetic at Shoeburyness blow up some of their ordnance it sometimes rattles our windows, we don't even have line of sight.
We're 30 metres ASL so would survive the tidal wave. It's the initial shock wave which might be a problem for closest spots like Tesco at Sheerness.
So we are good to go then ?  ::) 



Barry

Quote from: Streetwalker on August 29, 2024, 10:12:29 PM
Just blow the fecker up and be done with it . Southend is a dump and the Tidal basin needs redevelopment so everyone's a winner .
When Qinetic at Shoeburyness blow up some of their ordnance it sometimes rattles our windows, we don't even have line of sight.
We're 30 metres ASL so would survive the tidal wave. It's the initial shock wave which might be a problem for closest spots like Tesco at Sheerness.
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cromwell

Quote from: Streetwalker on August 29, 2024, 10:12:29 PM
Just blow the fecker up and be done with it .
I know the Smurf can be a little trying at times but that's rather extreme isn't it? ;D
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Streetwalker

Just blow the fecker up and be done with it . Southend is a dump and the Tidal basin needs redevelopment so everyone's a winner .

patman post

Quote from: T00ts on August 26, 2024, 05:06:16 PM
Not sure that's even relevant. It is now that it is deemed dangerous and Khan is the lousy incumbent.
The wreck was never London's (or its mayor's) responsibility — it was never in its area. The vessel arrived at Sheerness in Kent, dragged its anchor in the shallow water and grounded on a sandbank, running east from the Isle of Grain approximately 250 metres north of the Medway Approach Channel.

The wreck of the SS Richard Montgomery now remains on the sandbank where she sank close to the Medway Approach Channel.

Medway Ports is contracted by the Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) to mark and guard the wreck. It is also contracted to provide and maintain a circle of buoys around the wreck to ensure that shipping avoids the area. The wreck is also under 24-hour radar surveillance by Medway Ports — its operations room is within sight of the wreck, and provides a first line of response to any incursions within the area...

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-ss-richard-montgomery-information-and-survey-reports/ss-richard-montgomery-background-information

Note: Medway is a local government district with borough status in the county of Kent.
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patman post

There seems to be some mix up of the terms 'explosives' and 'munitions':

Munitions are a collection of weapons and any equipment that goes with them. An army's cache of guns and bullets are its munitions. The noun 'munitions' refers to arms and ammunition collectively...
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Unlucky4Sum

Quote from: papasmurf on August 28, 2024, 09:46:49 AM
Given the number of varying estimates of what is left on board and scattered around the wreck the actual amount is unknown.
So you were wrong in your insistence it was definitely 7,000 tons then.  Glad we cleared that up.

papasmurf

Quote from: Barry on August 28, 2024, 09:33:38 AM
So 1300 tonnes was never wrong. 
Given the number of varying estimates of what is left on board and scattered around the wreck the actual amount is unknown.
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Barry

Quote from: papasmurf on August 27, 2024, 05:58:10 PM
That is just one of many guestimates which vary considerably.
So 1300 tonnes was never wrong. But 7000 tons was never right as more than 50% of the cargo was removed before the ship sank.
If you cant agree to that I may have to invoke the "Pillock" word. © RR  :)
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Nick

Quote from: papasmurf on August 27, 2024, 09:16:54 PM
I had already see that video.
Are you that dense that you don't understand that 7000 minus 5600 salvaged leaves 1400?
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

papasmurf

Quote from: Barry on August 27, 2024, 08:49:20 PM
Was quite interesting until reply #8 which did the usual Smurf Swerve into pedantry and denial.
It's not our fault if he can't read and understand his own links properly.
It's also not our fault that he won't watch a well researched and factual video, but disrespects it anyway.
I had already see that video.
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Barry

Was quite interesting until reply #8 which did the usual Smurf Swerve into pedantry and denial.
It's not our fault if he can't read and understand his own links properly.
It's also not our fault that he won't watch a well researched and factual video, but disrespects it anyway.

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Unlucky4Sum