Time for change?

[Unlucky4Sum]

And is there any evidence of asymptomatic Covid causing any heart conditions in young fit people?  Is there a single young fit person who has been reported in the media who died from Covid?  Anyone will do, just for example.  It would need to be stated by a coroner, or similar official statement.

Fitness enthusiast, 42, who rejected vaccine, dies of Covid

'The father of one, John Eyers, a construction expert from Southport in Merseyside, was described by his sister Jenny McCann as "the fittest, healthiest person I know".

She added that her brother had been climbing Welsh mountains and camping in the wild four weeks before his death.

But he was left in intensive care after catching coronavirus, and told his consultant before he was ventilated that he wished he had been vaccinated. His twin said his death was "a tragedy".

[Scott777]

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/nitrous-oxide-no-laughing-matter/
Data from the Office for National Statistics shows that there were 40 deaths between 2011 and 2020 involving nitrous oxide in England and Wales, up from 16 between 2001 and 2010. The annual number of deaths is too small to identify a year-on-year trend.

https://adf.org.au/insights/nitrous-oxide/

Regular use or prolonged exposure to nitrous oxide may result in:

memory loss
vitamin B12 depletion (long-term depletion causes brain and nerve damage)
ringing or buzzing in the ears
incontinence
numbness in the hands or feet
limb spasms
potential birth defects (if used during pregnancy)
weakened immune system
disruption to reproductive systems
depression
psychological dependence
psychosis.6, 10-12


Signs of overdose can include:

loss of consciousness caused by a fall in blood pressure, or asphyxia (when the body is deprived of oxygen)
irregular heartbeat
seizures.7

So no evidence of a serious effect on the heart then.  So why did you say it could cause heart problems?

[papasmurf]

Has anyone suffered any major heart problems specifically from Nitrous oxide abuse?

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/nitrous-oxide-no-laughing-matter/
Data from the Office for National Statistics shows that there were 40 deaths between 2011 and 2020 involving nitrous oxide in England and Wales, up from 16 between 2001 and 2010. The annual number of deaths is too small to identify a year-on-year trend.

https://adf.org.au/insights/nitrous-oxide/

Regular use or prolonged exposure to nitrous oxide may result in:

memory loss
vitamin B12 depletion (long-term depletion causes brain and nerve damage)
ringing or buzzing in the ears
incontinence
numbness in the hands or feet
limb spasms
potential birth defects (if used during pregnancy)
weakened immune system
disruption to reproductive systems
depression
psychological dependence
psychosis.6, 10-12


Signs of overdose can include:

loss of consciousness caused by a fall in blood pressure, or asphyxia (when the body is deprived of oxygen)
irregular heartbeat
seizures.7

[Scott777]

The increased use of Nitrous Oxide recreationally could be a factor.

Has anyone suffered any major heart problems specifically from Nitrous oxide abuse?

[Scott777]

The wider issue of increased heart issues in the young could be all sorts of things but rather than jabs I'd suggest more like otherwise asymptomatic Covid infection.  Covid can be a real bastard on blood vessels.

And is there any evidence of asymptomatic Covid causing any heart conditions in young fit people?  Is there a single young fit person who has been reported in the media who died from Covid?  Anyone will do, just for example.  It would need to be stated by a coroner, or similar official statement.

[Scott777]

The documentations that is issued with every Covid Vaccination state the rare incidence of that problem. For which I referenced the death data.  The DM is scaremongering yet again with not link posted to any research.

https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/coronavirus-vaccine-your-questions-answered/myocarditis-and-covid-19-vaccines-should-you-be-worried

How rare are these side effects?
The risk of myocarditis and pericarditis after a Covid-19 vaccine is very low.
Patient leaflets for each Covid-19 vaccine list how frequently people experience myocarditis or pericarditis after being vaccinated as:
up to 1 in 10,000 people for Pfizer's Comirnaty vaccine
up to 1 in 10,000 people for Moderna's Spikevax vaccine
not possible to estimate for Novavax's Nuvaxovid vaccine as it has not been widely used in the UK.
All three of these Covid-19 vaccines are mRNA vaccines designed to target the Omicron strain.
The AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine, which is a non-mRNA vaccine, is not currently being offered in the UK.
Find out more about the AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine
 Can Covid-19 cause myocarditis and pericarditis?
Research shows that Covid-19 itself is much more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine.
People who are vaccinated against Covid-19 also have a much lower risk of getting other serious heart complications caused by the virus, including heart attack and stroke.
That is why the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) says the benefits of having the Covid-19 vaccine far outweigh the risks of not getting it for most people.
For a summary of the latest reports on Covid-19 vaccine side effects visit the MHRA website.
Find out more about how Covid-19 affects the heart and circulatory system.

But we won't know how rare the damage is for many years.  My Dad, for example, has been getting tests for chest pains only in the last few months.  The waiting time for scans is over a year, so he is going private, which still takes months.  He got jabbed in 2021.  You cannot possibly know how much more the incidents will rise.  You also don't know the DM is scaremongering.  They quoted NHS data, so it's not relevant to link to research.  So are you claiming the DM is lying?

[Unlucky4Sum]

Yep, that and following idiots on Tik Tok

[papasmurf]

The wider issue of increased heart issues in the young could be all sorts of things but rather than jabs

The increased use of Nitrous Oxide recreationally could be a factor.

[Unlucky4Sum]

"Gym fanatic, 37, suffered cardiac arrest after a workout and 'died' for seven minutes... as numbers of 'super-fit' slim young heart attack victims surge"

"It comes as data has shown a concerning rise in cardiovascular conditions including heart attacks, coronary heart disease and strokes among younger, fit and active adults. "

Don't worry, it can't be the Covid jabs cos when did a Covid jab ever cause any heart problems?  🤔

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13932175/fit-exercise-37-heart-attack-gym-died-seven-minutes.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=social-twitter_mailonline

The specific case in that link sounds like genetic predisposition to blocked arteries.

The wider issue of increased heart issues in the young could be all sorts of things but rather than jabs I'd suggest more like otherwise asymptomatic Covid infection.  Covid can be a real bastard on blood vessels.

[papasmurf]

"It comes as data has shown a concerning rise in cardiovascular conditions including heart attacks, coronary heart disease and strokes among younger, fit and active adults. "

The documentations that is issued with every Covid Vaccination state the rare incidence of that problem. For which I referenced the death data.  The DM is scaremongering yet again with not link posted to any research.

https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/coronavirus-vaccine-your-questions-answered/myocarditis-and-covid-19-vaccines-should-you-be-worried

How rare are these side effects?
The risk of myocarditis and pericarditis after a Covid-19 vaccine is very low.
Patient leaflets for each Covid-19 vaccine list how frequently people experience myocarditis or pericarditis after being vaccinated as:
up to 1 in 10,000 people for Pfizer's Comirnaty vaccine
up to 1 in 10,000 people for Moderna's Spikevax vaccine
not possible to estimate for Novavax's Nuvaxovid vaccine as it has not been widely used in the UK.
All three of these Covid-19 vaccines are mRNA vaccines designed to target the Omicron strain.
The AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine, which is a non-mRNA vaccine, is not currently being offered in the UK.
Find out more about the AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine
 Can Covid-19 cause myocarditis and pericarditis?
Research shows that Covid-19 itself is much more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine.
People who are vaccinated against Covid-19 also have a much lower risk of getting other serious heart complications caused by the virus, including heart attack and stroke.
That is why the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) says the benefits of having the Covid-19 vaccine far outweigh the risks of not getting it for most people.
For a summary of the latest reports on Covid-19 vaccine side effects visit the MHRA website.
Find out more about how Covid-19 affects the heart and circulatory system.

[Scott777]

"Gym fanatic, 37, suffered cardiac arrest after a workout and 'died' for seven minutes... as numbers of 'super-fit' slim young heart attack victims surge"

"It comes as data has shown a concerning rise in cardiovascular conditions including heart attacks, coronary heart disease and strokes among younger, fit and active adults. "

Don't worry, it can't be the Covid jabs cos when did a Covid jab ever cause any heart problems?  🤔

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13932175/fit-exercise-37-heart-attack-gym-died-seven-minutes.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=social-twitter_mailonline

[papasmurf]

I'd just get the usualthis is what we do response

Not in my experience, they are usually very helpful.

[Unlucky4Sum]

I'd just get the usualthis is what we do response

[papasmurf]

You clearly don't

Table 8 of that spreadsheet clearly contains some mathmathical analyses of the raw data in the other tables.  That analysis would almost certainly have been by formulae in those table 8 cells.  It's what spreadsheets are for.

But someone has then copied those cells to each other using Paste Special, Values only which hides the formulae.

I really can't make it simpler for you.

If you are that worried email the ONS, I always find them helpful:- sharedcustomercontactcentre@ons.gov.uk

[Unlucky4Sum]

I do understand spreadsheet which is why I cannot fathom what you are on about. Comparing databases of the  vaccinated and unvaccinated with deaths is not exactly rocket science.

You clearly don't

Table 8 of that spreadsheet clearly contains some mathmathical analyses of the raw data in the other tables.  That analysis would almost certainly have been by formulae in those table 8 cells.  It's what spreadsheets are for.

But someone has then copied those cells to each other using Paste Special, Values only which hides the formulae.

I really can't make it simpler for you.