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Unlucky4Sum

Nick you do what you want, it's your forum but this preponderance to personally attack anyone that disagrees with you hasn't changed over time and isn't conducive to actual debate.


Nick

Quote from: Unlucky4Sum on October 09, 2024, 11:46:41 PMNot according to the Oxford English Dictionary you know the one serious people use.

'verb
prove (a statement or theory) to be wrong or false; disprove.'


Tawdry (aka shite) reader edited dictionaries may say different.
You really are despicable, and think you can worm your way out of being wrong by linking to the
OED. And as all who click on it will see it's just a Google search link, and meaning number 2 in the list is exactly what I said it was, and nothing to do with proof. You even have to caveat underneath that if any other dictionary says different they are 💩. You really are going to have to change your way of posting because I'd rather have less posters or even close the forum than this BS. 

Her is a link to the crappy Cambridge dictionary. 

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/refute
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Unlucky4Sum

Quote from: Nick on October 09, 2024, 11:37:46 PMNope, refute can also mean to deny or contradict, proof doesn't have to be part of it.
Not according to the Oxford English Dictionary you know the one serious people use.

'verb
prove (a statement or theory) to be wrong or false; disprove.'


Tawdry (aka shite) reader edited dictionaries may say different.

Nick

Quote from: Unlucky4Sum on October 09, 2024, 11:16:15 PMDid you not know that nay saying (which is what you are doing) is nothing like refutal which requires proof that something is wrong.

Which you haven't done.
Nope, refute can also mean to deny or contradict, proof doesn't have to be part of it. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Unlucky4Sum

Quote from: Scott777 on October 08, 2024, 02:59:55 PMI'm refuting it, so they have been refuted.  If you can't show any evidence he died from Covid, just say so.  If you can, provide a statement from a coroner, or a spokesperson at a hospital, or a certificate.
Did you not know that nay saying (which is what you are doing) is nothing like refutal which requires proof that something is wrong.

Which you haven't done.

Barry

Quote from: Scott777 on October 08, 2024, 02:59:55 PMI'm refuting it, so they have been refuted.  If you can't show any evidence he died from Covid, just say so.  If you can, provide a statement from a coroner, or a spokesperson at a hospital, or a certificate.
That report came out at a time when actors were being used as "patients" in hospital, to convince everyone how terrible the virus was and to get jabbed. We were being gaslighted big time in 2021.
The virus is still everywhere, and no one gives a monkeys now.
† The end is nigh †

Scott777

Quote from: Unlucky4Sum on October 08, 2024, 01:27:49 PMAnd yet not one of tham has been refuted.  There's an obvious explanation why.


I'm refuting it, so they have been refuted.  If you can't show any evidence he died from Covid, just say so.  If you can, provide a statement from a coroner, or a spokesperson at a hospital, or a certificate.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

papasmurf

Quote from: Scott777 on October 08, 2024, 12:07:26 PMThese are media articles, not sources.

I did not post media sources.
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

Unlucky4Sum

Quote from: Scott777 on October 08, 2024, 12:07:26 PMThese are media articles, not sources.
And yet not one of tham has been refuted.  There's an obvious explanation why.

Nick

Quote from: Scott777 on October 08, 2024, 12:37:58 PMBut would it be fair to say it's nitrogen or oxygen that causes harm or death?  Or more accurate to say the conditions did?  I mean, anything could cause death under certain conditions, but it's not part of its nature.  Water or food can.
I would say so, anything in excess has the potential to kill.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Scott777

Quote from: Nick on October 08, 2024, 12:31:40 PMAnyone who has done some diving would know about partial pressures and Nitrogen Narcosis, even Oxygen becomes poisonous under certain conditions.


But would it be fair to say it's nitrogen or oxygen that causes harm or death?  Or more accurate to say the conditions did?  I mean, anything could cause death under certain conditions, but it's not part of its nature.  Water or food can.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Nick

Quote from: Scott777 on October 08, 2024, 12:28:01 PM"Heavy nitrous oxide use can result in serious health harms such as neurological damage and even death due to the risk of falling unconscious and/or suffocating from the lack of oxygen."

So no mention of specifically causing heart problems.  The problem is, people like you read headlines and titles but not the content, and then jump to conclusions, then propagate claims which are not based on evidence.  You claimed nitrous-oxide can cause heart problems, but in fact you don't know this.  However, Covid jabs are officially recognised by the British Foundation, the UK Government, the CDC, and Yale scientists, as increasing the risk of heart problems, including myocarditis, pericarditis, Guillain-Barré Syndrome, Thrombosis, and blood clots.
Anyone who has done some diving would know about partial pressures and Nitrogen Narcosis, even Oxygen becomes poisonous under certain conditions.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Scott777

Quote from: papasmurf on October 08, 2024, 11:34:40 AMI give up. The number of deaths and other problems is on the increase in Britain. It has been well publicised, plus it is now banned:-

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nitrous-oxide-ban/nitrous-oxide-ban-guidance

"Heavy nitrous oxide use can result in serious health harms such as neurological damage and even death due to the risk of falling unconscious and/or suffocating from the lack of oxygen."

So no mention of specifically causing heart problems.  The problem is, people like you read headlines and titles but not the content, and then jump to conclusions, then propagate claims which are not based on evidence.  You claimed nitrous-oxide can cause heart problems, but in fact you don't know this.  However, Covid jabs are officially recognised by the British Foundation, the UK Government, the CDC, and Yale scientists, as increasing the risk of heart problems, including myocarditis, pericarditis, Guillain-Barré Syndrome, Thrombosis, and blood clots.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Barry

Quote from: Scott777 on October 08, 2024, 11:01:41 AMAnd what is the source of the claim that he died from Covid?
We would need to see a death certificate.
† The end is nigh †

Scott777

Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.