Who allowed Birmingham to get like this?

[Borg Refinery]

When people run down the country and major cities etc, I'm minded to think of life elsewhere where children have no running water, there's no food, life is absolutely unlivable. The fact is the standard of living has improved dramatically

The fact is whether one's own country makes one sick or not, or it's compared to a toilet, the place for many people is a destination that millions flock to because they truly love it and would never complain about it

I won't condemn anyone or any country and believe the country should be improved if there are problems, not run down constantly

[Nick]

I think a lot of the A38 doesn't have footpaths, but I drove through Handsworth once when the M42 was blocked and wondered if I would get out alive.
Handsworth is a bit like the scenes in the video, just a bit less rubbish.

The main road through Handsworth is the section I was referring to, the pavements there are unusable due to the grocers and what the like spilling out onto them. If I was in Delhi I wouldn't mind but I bet they don't pay and ground rent

[Barry]

Take a walk down the A38 in Birmingham, not a pleasant experience, same goes for any big city I suspect.

I think a lot of the A38 doesn't have footpaths, but I drove through Handsworth once when the M42 was blocked and wondered if I would get out alive.
Handsworth is a bit like the scenes in the video, just a bit less rubbish.

[papasmurf]

The Tories didn't totally destabilise the whole of the Middle East and cause the whole of Europe to be inundated with murderers, rapists and terrorists, people who do not fit with our way of life. You might have had a rough time under the Tories, that's unlucky. Maybe you should have grafted a bit harder and got on the right side of the line.

Nick I am 76 years old, the Tories have totally effed up the country since 2010. That you think otherwise means you are insulated from it.

[Nick]

The country slid down the pan during 14 years of Tories. It will need very big sludge gulper to get the country of the mire.

The Tories didn't totally destabilise the whole of the Middle East and cause the whole of Europe to be inundated with murderers, rapists and terrorists, people who do not fit with our way of life. You might have had a rough time under the Tories, that's unlucky. Maybe you should have grafted a bit harder and got on the right side of the line.

[Streetwalker]

The country slid down the pan during 14 years of Tories. It will need very big sludge gulper to get the country of the mire.

It was well on its way before the Tories came to power

[papasmurf]

There are still some trying to hold the country together so it doesn't slide down the pan.

The country slid down the pan during 14 years of Tories. It will need very big sludge gulper to get the country of the mire.

[T00ts]

I used to love Birmingham but I guess there are many trying to hold it's head above water by producing good stuff like the theatres etc. It takes a while for mismanagement to affect everything and the Labour Council have been messing up for a long time. Gradually the cracks are showing.

Same with the country on a larger scale. There are still some trying to hold the country together so it doesn't slide down the pan. It's a shame that Labour has been given carte blanche to throw the baby out with the bath water when the poor kid has already been half drowning for long enough.

[Streetwalker]

And yet one of the most successful cities in the country

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham#Economy

Fair enough ,it has some things going for it , its still a dump though .   

[cromwell]

Brum is one of the most successful and largest cities in the country, in no way is it a '****hole'.

Liberals are patriots who care about their country

Ditto the far-right, and I won't condemn any of them

PS: all my posts should be ignored and skipped over, do not respond to them or "DNFTT" as one poster rightly says about them all. They are all irrelevant as am I, they should be left well enough alone and I want 0% attention so i can downplay myself unperturbed

Don't be daft,it's a forum everyone has an opinion which should not be shut down without good reason.

I disagree with Sampan at times Scott too but that doesn't mean their views are wrong or invalid just different.

Some people just don't get it and believe only they are right.

[Borg Refinery]

Take a walk down the A38 in Birmingham, not a pleasant experience, same goes for any big city I suspect.

Cities are so gentrified nowdays, especially big cities, that I'm sure other than a tiny handful of places it's really not a problem, London definitely is

People say the same about Atlanta constantly but it's not just fine, it feels incredibly safe in 90% of the city, despite social media constantly suggesting you will die the very second you step foot outside

[papasmurf]

Take a walk down the A38 in Birmingham, not a pleasant experience, same goes for any big city I suspect.

Personally I would not go there:-

https://www.justicesecurity.co.uk/crime-rate/birmingham-city-centre#:~:text=Birmingham%20City%20Centre%20Crime%20Overview,crimes%20of%20theft%20being%20reported.

Birmingham City Centre Crime Overview
Birmingham is the most dangerous major city in the West Midlands.
In 2022, there were 145 crimes per 1000 people, 17% higher than the West Midlands average.
In December 2022, it was the West Midlands most dangerous area for burglary, with 801 crimes of theft being reported.

[Nick]

Brum is one of the most successful and largest cities in the country, in no way is it a '****hole'.

Take a walk down the A38 in Birmingham, not a pleasant experience, same goes for any big city I suspect.

[Borg Refinery]

The wiki link is lying?

[papasmurf]

And yet one of the most successful cities in the country

Successful at what? I know several people who fled Brum because of the state it is in.