Nightingale hospitals badly thought through publicity stunt....Peston.

[Thomas]

Indeed, and in my opinion, suspiciously shambolic.  I am now inclined to think it's all bullsh**.

What do you mean scott? The yookay government have provided clarity.!!





1. dont leave the house for any reason , but if you have a reason , you can leave the house.



2.masks are useless at protecting the public from the virus , but you should wear one to save lives.



3.shops are closed , except the shops that are still open.



4.Dont go to work , but you can get another job and go to work.



5.stay home , but its also important to go out.



6. dont visit old people , but please do take care of them and take them food and medicine.



7.maintain social distancing and dont gather in large crowds , except when gathering on london bridge to clap for boris.



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[Thomas]

Nightingale Glasgow is now open, they're calling it I.C.U. Jimmy.

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No such a place as glasgow nightingale. ( get yer coat fur that joke barry. )

[Scott777]

What a feckin shambles.

Indeed, and in my opinion, suspiciously shambolic.  I am now inclined to think it's all bullsh**.

[Barry]

Nightingale Glasgow is now open, they're calling it I.C.U. Jimmy.

[Thomas]

The insinuation is if the good auld english tories had locked down greater london earlier , they could have let the rest of us continue and the economy rumble on regardless , with the much less affected areas being  kept under control by contact tracing .



Stick is beginning to build big time on the conservative government. Could normal politics be about to resume at last....hopefully? :roll:

[Thomas]

I know i know it s the guardian..

UK to start coronavirus contact tracing again



Matt Hancock says government to rebuild teams amid criticism it stopped strategy too early

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poor auld hancock , he doesnt know if he is coming or going half the time.  ::

Britain is to restart tracing the contacts of people who have had coronavirus symptoms, the health secretary has said, reverting to a policy recommended by the World Health Organization but abandoned by the UK as the numbers of cases and deaths began to rise in early March.



Matt Hancock told the health select committee on Friday that police, fire, prison and Department of Work and Pensions staff would now be eligible for coronavirus testing, amid growing concerns that the country will miss its target of 100,000 coronavirus tests a day by the end of April.



A former director of the WHO told the hearing that contact tracing, testing and isolation could have continued for longer across the UK and would have enabled the government to lock down London while leaving other areas of the country with fewer restrictions.



Prof Anthony Costello, the head of the Institute for Global Health at University College London, pointed out that Yorkshire had fewer than 10 cases identified in 300,000-400,000 people around the time that contact tracing and community testing were halted and, as such, could have avoided a complete lockdown.





Critics have said the UK was too quick to stop the universal testing of people with symptoms, and following up with their recent contacts, who could then be asked to self-isolate.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/uk-to-start-coronavirus-contact-tracing-again">https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... cing-again">https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/uk-to-start-coronavirus-contact-tracing-again

[Thomas]

Light at the end of the tunnell....

Early peek at data on Gilead coronavirus drug suggests patients are responding to treatment

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A Chicago hospital treating severe Covid-19 patients with Gilead Sciences' antiviral medicine remdesivir in a closely watched clinical trial is seeing rapid recoveries in fever and respiratory symptoms, with nearly all patients discharged in less than a week, STAT has learned.

Remdesivir was one of the first medicines identified as having the potential to impact SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus that causes Covid-19, in lab tests. The entire world has been waiting for results from Gilead's clinical trials, and positive results would likely lead to fast approvals by the Food and Drug Administration and other regulatory agencies. If safe and effective, it could become the first approved treatment against the disease.

The University of Chicago Medicine recruited 125 people with Covid-19 into Gilead's two Phase 3 clinical trials. Of those people, 113 had severe disease. All the patients have been treated with daily infusions of remdesivir.

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[Thomas]

The Tories are always getting an absolute kicking from the medical community and they always survive.

We want them to survive borkie.



Its a fine balancing act  im playing here. Stir up hatred for the english conservative party in scotland , which  has three quarters of my country opposing them

Scottish Parliament constituency voting intentions:



SNP 51% (+1)

Conservatives 26% (n/c)

Labour 14% (n/c)

Liberal Democrats 6% (-1)

Greens 3% (n/c)



Scottish Parliament regional list voting intentions:



SNP 48% (+1)

Conservatives 26% (+1)

Labour 13% (-1)

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Respondents to the poll feel that Nicola Sturgeon is responding better to the current crisis than Boris Johnson - she gets a net rating of +54 compared to Johnson's rating of +17

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While giving them just enough stick in england to keep them on their toes , but not frighten you , the english voter off them too much , as we want them to continue in power for a while yet.



Its all good fun. As i have said and you have pointed out yourself , then english voter has no where to turn with labour being alternative , so despite the pigs ear your government is making of covid 19 , and pissing off the medical community , you should easily survive.



Eyes on the prize borkie. :thup:

[papasmurf]

 it only takes about 6 hours per grave

They use a JCB or mini-digger these days, it is a lot quicker.

[Borchester]

Its a good thread , and the tories are receiving an absolute kicking over it in the medical community.

The Tories are always getting an absolute kicking from the medical community and they always survive.



The problem with any sort of emergency is that everyone wants to help but there are never enough jobs for them to do. I read somewhere that there are 500,000 volunteers and only 20,000 tasks available. We do have 14,000 dead so the volunteers could be set to dig graves but unfortunately it only takes about 6 hours per grave which means that each volunteer would only be occupied for ten minutes although there is no reason why the corpses should not be continually dug up and reburied until this nonsense is over.

[Thomas]

15000 being let into the uk daily  at heathrow, many from coronavirus hotspots , without any health checks , nightingale hospitals being described widely in the medical community as white elephants and a distraction , and scientists sitting on their hands in uk labs hardly doing any testing despite being told they would be rushed off their feet doing 12 hour days to try and cope.



What a feckin shambles.

[Thomas]

Its a good thread , and the tories are receiving an absolute kicking over it in the medical community.

Yes. The Nightingale is one big White Elephant. It would have made more sense to expand acute facilities in an acute site, and use the ExCel as a step down/community hospital for those recovering. Colleagues in England, who can't speak out, have said this place is a distraction.

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So, have to ask, why then are we extracting staff from rotas in regular hospitals throughout the country to staff the Nightingales, placing an even greater burden on local services?

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That's what many colleagues in London are wondering.

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UK (daily) hospital death toll up by 847 to a total of 14,576.



Daily toll in the rUK continues to surpass the cumulative one for Scotland.



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-outbreak/uk-was-too-slow-on-coronavirus-and-40000-could-die-professor-says-idUSKBN21Z17O">https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN21Z17O">https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-outbreak/uk-was-too-slow-on-coronavirus-and-40000-could-die-professor-says-idUSKBN21Z17O



UK was too slow on coronavirus and 40,000 could die, professor says

LONDON (Reuters) - The British government was too slow to react on a number of fronts to the novel coronavirus outbreak that could cause the deaths of 40,000 people in the United Kingdom, a leading public health professor told lawmakers on Friday.

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I can understand why Johnson has seemingly gone into hiding. :roll:  ::

[patman post]

It would appear that, so far, keeping the rate of infection to manageable levels, and the extraordinary hard work that's produced a fourfold increase of ICUs in existing hospitals has meant they have not been overwhelmed by coronavirus patients, as was feared they might be earlier.



It's doubtful the Nightingales are a publicity stunt. But if China publicised it's express building of a hospital:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/04/inside-wuhan-hospital-built-10-days-treat-coronavirus-patients/">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... -patients/">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/04/inside-wuhan-hospital-built-10-days-treat-coronavirus-patients/

it's no wonder the media picked up on what was being done similarly in the UK.   That seems to me normal national pride and beating of the drum by parts of the media, before returning to beating up the government.

I can't see how criticism is deserved for — as hopefully it will turn out — the oversupply of extra ICU and normal capacity...?

[Barry]

I wouldn't listen to anything Peston says. He doesn't know what he is talking about. He's a political commentator with no medical knowledge.

He's getting to be as believable as David Icke

[Nalaar]

It makes sense to me that the most critically ill and vulnerable would remain in hospitals, while those who are less likely to have complications are transferred.



The staffing and equipment are a zero sum game, all staff or equipment that ends up at a temporary hospital will obviously not be available to a permanent hospital at the same time. Was there ever some belief that would not be the case?