Prince Andrew stripped of military titles and patronages, Queen announces

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cromwell

Quote from: Barry on February 11, 2022, 10:30:59 PM
Royal protocol will be followed and Charles will become King. The Queen has opened up the way for that to be accepted in her 70th year letter which she published. Charles might abdicate early, but I doubt that. I think Prince William will have to wait until Charles dies.
You anti royalists are having a bit of a wishful thinking dream. Butt Kick
My sources tell me you are the prince of wales and I claim my £10.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

Barry

Royal protocol will be followed and Charles will become King. The Queen has opened up the way for that to be accepted in her 70th year letter which she published. Charles might abdicate early, but I doubt that. I think Prince William will have to wait until Charles dies.
You anti royalists are having a bit of a wishful thinking dream. Butt Kick
† The end is nigh †

srb7677

Quote from: cromwell on February 11, 2022, 07:14:49 PM
He's too vain but I reckon you're right,if they don't skip a generation I reckon the monarchy finished,
As a republican, I am sitting out the last months or years of the queen, knowing that historically our monarchy has only ever tended to be as popular as the reigning monarch. Prince Charles for many reasons is unlikely to be anywhere near as popular as the current monarch, but William is far more likely to be, and amongst a younger generation with many years ahead too. And he himself is young enough to possibly have many decades ahead too. If Charles becomes king there is scope for republicanism to prosper, but if it passes direct to William, republicanism is probably dead for another generation or two.
We are not all in the same boat. We are in the same storm. Some of us have yachts. Some of us have canoes. Some of us are drowning.

T00ts

Quote from: cromwell on February 11, 2022, 07:14:49 PM
He's too vain but I reckon you're right,if they don't skip a generation I reckon the monarchy finished,
I do hope not because an elected President might really be worse. At least for the last 70 years the Queen has been the best of both worlds  in a way. Out there but only up to a point. The rest don't seem to understand that balance. A President of course would never have the same role as the Queen. I can't see anyone elected having the same Constitutional role which has evolved over centuries. Where does that leave us? Who takes precedence should a need arise? Camilla seems to be the canny one. Perhaps she and Katherine will read the room and have words.

cromwell

Quote from: T00ts on February 11, 2022, 07:10:50 PM
No matter what is true or false he is damaged goods. The damage to the Monarchy is likely to be huge too. It seems that they simply have too many bad apples and a sad lack of judgement both in dealing with the media and their image. Charles is a big question mark too and I still wonder if Diana was right when she said she doubted he would be King. If the Monarchy is to survive perhaps this is the moment when Charles thinks of the greater good and passes to William.
He's too vain but I reckon you're right,if they don't skip a generation I reckon the monarchy finished,
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

T00ts

Quote from: cromwell on February 11, 2022, 06:43:22 PM
And a report today by his masseuse at Windsor if true paints a poor picture.

I'm just a peasant from a rough council estate but wouldn't dream of asking a female in day to day conversationi if she takes  it up the........well anything really.
No matter what is true or false he is damaged goods. The damage to the Monarchy is likely to be huge too. It seems that they simply have too many bad apples and a sad lack of judgement both in dealing with the media and their image. Charles is a big question mark too and I still wonder if Diana was right when she said she doubted he would be King. If the Monarchy is to survive perhaps this is the moment when Charles thinks of the greater good and passes to William.

cromwell

And a report today by his masseuse at Windsor if true paints a poor picture.

I'm just a peasant from a rough council estate but wouldn't dream of asking a female in day to day conversationi if she takes  it up the........well anything really.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

B0ycey

Sorry, Andrew, Papa. You have to forgive me. Not a Royalist and all I have heard today is about partying at Philips funeral. Slip of the keyboard.:-*

papasmurf

Quote from: B0ycey on January 14, 2022, 04:43:44 PM
The Queen is merely protecting the Crown. If Phillip loses his civil case, it takes down the Monarchy. This isn't about the Queen getting a backbone. Nor is it about Phillip finally seeing his errors. Neither would have made this decision trust me. The Queen is just a figurehead to the real powers which are hiding behind the scenes. Meagan calls them the firm. But their title is Kensington House.
Phillip?
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

B0ycey

The Queen is merely protecting the Crown. If Andrew loses his civil case, it takes down the Monarchy. This isn't about the Queen getting a backbone. Nor is it about Andrew finally seeing his errors. Neither would have made this decision trust me. The Queen is just a figurehead to the real powers which are hiding behind the scenes. Meagan calls them the firm. But their title is Kensington House.

johnofgwent

Quote from: Good old on January 14, 2022, 10:47:52 AM
That's a fact John, unless there is compelling evidence of him being in the same situation in the states. It has to be hard to see any claim of under age sex holding up. I think the police here have already said no case to answer.
This is where the evidence needs to come out.
The ages of consent vary across several states.

That's their privilege I suppose but to pick one Michigan mirrors our own where the age of consent is 16 unless the other person is an "authority figure" when it becomes 18. God only knows WHY I know that, but I do.

None of this really speaks to the issue of non consensual sex of course. 
<t>In matters of taxation, Lord Clyde\'s summing up in the 1929 case Inland Revenue v Ayrshire Pullman Services is worth a glance.</t>

papasmurf

Quote from: johnofgwent on January 14, 2022, 10:29:56 AM
So were the logs for a certain submarine ...

Do you really think those documents will turn up.

I suspect something will. I wouldn't like to say how genuine they will be
Made public no, but accessible yes. 
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Good old

Quote from: johnofgwent on January 14, 2022, 10:33:43 AM
I think it's critical to state the young lady in question was above the age of consent applicable under English Law at the time of the alleged actions.

Certain terminology may therefore be inappropriate. Dirty old bastard works for me here, paedophile certainly doesn't

That's a fact John, unless there is compelling evidence of him being in the same situation in the states. It has to be hard to see any claim of under age sex holding up. I think the police here have already said no case to answer.
This is where the evidence needs to come out.

johnofgwent

Quote from: cromwell on January 14, 2022, 07:29:47 AM
He's always played on his royal status demanded and got preferential treatment barked and bullied in his typical "I'm a royal prince and you peasant will treat me as such" his interview on tv was like him a disaster.

He is portrayed as a paedophile,he isn't but his behaviour is at best abysmal he just saw a young woman as another freebie he thought himself entitled to take.

I think it's critical to state the young lady in question was above the age of consent applicable under English Law at the time of the alleged actions. 

Certain terminology may therefore be inappropriate. Dirty old bastard works for me here, paedophile certainly doesn't 
<t>In matters of taxation, Lord Clyde\'s summing up in the 1929 case Inland Revenue v Ayrshire Pullman Services is worth a glance.</t>

johnofgwent

Quote from: papasmurf on January 14, 2022, 10:24:26 AM
Quite, she has as yet not even given specific dates and times. The one thing that is known but is not always public domain is where the Royal Family are at any given date and time. It will all be logged and recorded somewhere as will the protection squad duty rosters.

So were the logs for a certain submarine ...

Do you really think those documents will turn up.

I suspect something will. I wouldn't like to say how genuine they will be
<t>In matters of taxation, Lord Clyde\'s summing up in the 1929 case Inland Revenue v Ayrshire Pullman Services is worth a glance.</t>