Speccy's Toby Young: "I admit it, I was wrong to Back Boris"

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Quote from: Good old on September 18, 2020, 08:56:42 PMYes, he was. And it%u2019s that subject that is bringing the most criticism in Tory circles , you see most of them really thought he had an oven ready deal. And as true Tories they are appalled at the tactics he now employs, because he obviously didn%u2019t have an oven ready deal. Covid is difficult for him but most Tories know he inherited a difficult set of conditions to deal with that.
Possibly it will soon be time to leave Boris on his own with a bottle of scotch and a pistol — should keep papasmurf happy.
The only problem there is not one MP who looks like they could be a leader should the position arise...
On climate change — we're talking, we're beginning to act, but we're still not doing enough...

Borchester

Quote from: T00ts on September 18, 2020, 08:32:53 PM
Quote from: Good old on September 18, 2020, 08:16:35 PM
Quote from: Dynamis on September 18, 2020, 07:13:22 PM
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/i-admit-it-i-was-wrong-to-back-boris
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Magazine: 19 September 2020

Toby Young
I admit it: I was wrong to back Boris
From magazine issue: 19 September 2020
I admit it: I was wrong to back Boris

A friend emailed me earlier this week in despair about the Prime Minister. 'Boris reminds me of a hereditary king — Edward II or Henry VI — who is so staggeringly incompetent that he must be removed before doing too much damage,' he wrote. 'I felt the same way about May but Boris is worse.'

Nice. I agree needless to say, even the right wing media across all papers have solidly turned their fire on him.

It looks like the Tory knives are sharpening as more and more resign from key posts, this is a slow mo train crash mein freunds, make no mistake.

"Oh no, another bash the Tories thread by Dinnermiss or dinner lady or whatever that miserable scrote's name is! KEEL HIM!"

There has been some accidents waiting to happen looking for the keys to No 10, over the years , all parties.included.
But this bloke was so obviously not going to be much use in a crisis .  I would not vote for them, but there has been many a  Tory , I could admire for there sheer competence.
Why oh!why , did the Tobys , of this world mistake this fella,s bluster, for  any semblance  of competence. The man was already famous for gaffs . Did they think that was just his jokey side, and nothing more?

He was the only one to promise Brexit.

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Algerie Francais !

Sheepy

QuoteAs Patman, said elsewhere, with choice goes responsibility . All they have to do now is take responsibility .

Two years before they were a Brexit party they were going to kill us all, Then they tried to completely fudge it and now someone seems to have sent them a gift in covid.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!


Sheepy

Quote from: T00ts on September 18, 2020, 09:24:16 PM
Quote from: Sheepy on September 18, 2020, 09:11:42 PMIs it, well I never toots.

Are you being sarcy?  LOL
LOL Moi? well sometimes you can tell the truth until you are blue in the face, it doesn't make an iota of difference. Some people will still repeat the same old stuff.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!


Good old

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Well those Tories sure have short memories then, because they didn't decide they were a brexit party until after the EU elections. When it was obvious the electorate were not joking. Nobodies fault but their own if they bodged it.
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As Patman, said elsewhere, with choice goes responsibility . All they have to do now is take responsibility .

Sheepy

Quote from: T00ts on September 18, 2020, 09:03:19 PM
Quote from: Sheepy on September 18, 2020, 09:01:39 PMWell those Tories sure have short memories then, because they didn't decide they were a brexit party until after the EU elections. When it was obvious the electorate were not joking. Nobody fault but their own if they bodged it.

This is true and at the later GE most of the staunch remainers were given the boot.
Is it, well I never toots.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

T00ts

Quote from: Sheepy on September 18, 2020, 09:01:39 PMWell those Tories sure have short memories then, because they didn't decide they were a brexit party until after the EU elections. When it was obvious the electorate were not joking. Nobody fault but their own if they bodged it.

This is true and at the later GE most of the staunch remainers were given the boot.

T00ts

Quote from: Sheepy on September 18, 2020, 08:52:47 PMWas he? it seems to me, he begged for the opportunity to see Brexit through and was given the opportunity.

So what's the difference? The alternative was Jeremy Hunt - a remainer - a nice chap no doubt and with a lot of attributes that BJ lacks, but his line was that as a business man he knew how to negotiate, and I can't help but feel that that was shorthand for appeasement again. I have no love for BJ but he's a maverick with a goal and he won't like failure.

Sheepy

Quote from: Good old on September 18, 2020, 08:56:42 PM
Quote from: T00ts on September 18, 2020, 08:32:53 PM
Quote from: Good old on September 18, 2020, 08:16:35 PM
Quote from: Dynamis on September 18, 2020, 07:13:22 PM
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/i-admit-it-i-was-wrong-to-back-boris
Quote
Magazine: 19 September 2020

Toby Young
I admit it: I was wrong to back Boris
From magazine issue: 19 September 2020
I admit it: I was wrong to back Boris

A friend emailed me earlier this week in despair about the Prime Minister. 'Boris reminds me of a hereditary king — Edward II or Henry VI — who is so staggeringly incompetent that he must be removed before doing too much damage,' he wrote. 'I felt the same way about May but Boris is worse.'

Nice. I agree needless to say, even the right wing media across all papers have solidly turned their fire on him.

It looks like the Tory knives are sharpening as more and more resign from key posts, this is a slow mo train crash mein freunds, make no mistake.

"Oh no, another bash the Tories thread by Dinnermiss or dinner lady or whatever that miserable scrote's name is! KEEL HIM!"

There has been some accidents waiting to happen looking for the keys to No 10, over the years , all parties.included.
But this bloke was so obviously not going to be much use in a crisis .  I would not vote for them, but there has been many a  Tory , I could admire for there sheer competence.
Why oh!why , did the Tobys , of this world mistake this fella,s bluster, for  any semblance  of competence. The man was already famous for gaffs . Did they think that was just his jokey side, and nothing more?

He was the only one to promise Brexit.

Yes, he was. And it's that subject that is bringing the most criticism in Tory circles , you see most of them really thought he had an oven ready deal. And as true Tories they are appalled at the tactics he now employs, because he obviously didn't have an oven ready deal. Covid is difficult for him but most Tories know he inherited a difficult set of conditions to deal with that.
Well those Tories sure have short memories then, because they didn't decide they were a brexit party until after the EU elections. When it was obvious the electorate were not joking. Nobodies fault but their own if they bodged it.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

Good old

Quote from: T00ts on September 18, 2020, 08:32:53 PM
Quote from: Good old on September 18, 2020, 08:16:35 PM
Quote from: Dynamis on September 18, 2020, 07:13:22 PM
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/i-admit-it-i-was-wrong-to-back-boris
Quote
Magazine: 19 September 2020

Toby Young
I admit it: I was wrong to back Boris
From magazine issue: 19 September 2020
I admit it: I was wrong to back Boris

A friend emailed me earlier this week in despair about the Prime Minister. 'Boris reminds me of a hereditary king — Edward II or Henry VI — who is so staggeringly incompetent that he must be removed before doing too much damage,' he wrote. 'I felt the same way about May but Boris is worse.'

Nice. I agree needless to say, even the right wing media across all papers have solidly turned their fire on him.

It looks like the Tory knives are sharpening as more and more resign from key posts, this is a slow mo train crash mein freunds, make no mistake.

"Oh no, another bash the Tories thread by Dinnermiss or dinner lady or whatever that miserable scrote's name is! KEEL HIM!"

There has been some accidents waiting to happen looking for the keys to No 10, over the years , all parties.included.
But this bloke was so obviously not going to be much use in a crisis .  I would not vote for them, but there has been many a  Tory , I could admire for there sheer competence.
Why oh!why , did the Tobys , of this world mistake this fella,s bluster, for  any semblance  of competence. The man was already famous for gaffs . Did they think that was just his jokey side, and nothing more?

He was the only one to promise Brexit.

Yes, he was. And it's that subject that is bringing the most criticism in Tory circles , you see most of them really thought he had an oven ready deal. And as true Tories they are appalled at the tactics he now employs, because he obviously didn't have an oven ready deal. Covid is difficult for him but most Tories know he inherited a difficult set of conditions to deal with that.

Sheepy

Quote from: T00ts on September 18, 2020, 08:32:53 PM
Quote from: Good old on September 18, 2020, 08:16:35 PM
Quote from: Dynamis on September 18, 2020, 07:13:22 PM
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/i-admit-it-i-was-wrong-to-back-boris
Quote
Magazine: 19 September 2020

Toby Young
I admit it: I was wrong to back Boris
From magazine issue: 19 September 2020
I admit it: I was wrong to back Boris

A friend emailed me earlier this week in despair about the Prime Minister. 'Boris reminds me of a hereditary king — Edward II or Henry VI — who is so staggeringly incompetent that he must be removed before doing too much damage,' he wrote. 'I felt the same way about May but Boris is worse.'

Nice. I agree needless to say, even the right wing media across all papers have solidly turned their fire on him.

It looks like the Tory knives are sharpening as more and more resign from key posts, this is a slow mo train crash mein freunds, make no mistake.

"Oh no, another bash the Tories thread by Dinnermiss or dinner lady or whatever that miserable scrote's name is! KEEL HIM!"

There has been some accidents waiting to happen looking for the keys to No 10, over the years , all parties.included.
But this bloke was so obviously not going to be much use in a crisis .  I would not vote for them, but there has been many a  Tory , I could admire for there sheer competence.
Why oh!why , did the Tobys , of this world mistake this fella,s bluster, for  any semblance  of competence. The man was already famous for gaffs . Did they think that was just his jokey side, and nothing more?

He was the only one to promise Brexit.
Was he? it seems to me, he begged for the opportunity to see Brexit through and was given the opportunity.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

T00ts

Quote from: Good old on September 18, 2020, 08:16:35 PM
Quote from: Dynamis on September 18, 2020, 07:13:22 PM
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/i-admit-it-i-was-wrong-to-back-boris
Quote
Magazine: 19 September 2020

Toby Young
I admit it: I was wrong to back Boris
From magazine issue: 19 September 2020
I admit it: I was wrong to back Boris

A friend emailed me earlier this week in despair about the Prime Minister. 'Boris reminds me of a hereditary king — Edward II or Henry VI — who is so staggeringly incompetent that he must be removed before doing too much damage,' he wrote. 'I felt the same way about May but Boris is worse.'

Nice. I agree needless to say, even the right wing media across all papers have solidly turned their fire on him.

It looks like the Tory knives are sharpening as more and more resign from key posts, this is a slow mo train crash mein freunds, make no mistake.

"Oh no, another bash the Tories thread by Dinnermiss or dinner lady or whatever that miserable scrote's name is! KEEL HIM!"

There has been some accidents waiting to happen looking for the keys to No 10, over the years , all parties.included.
But this bloke was so obviously not going to be much use in a crisis .  I would not vote for them, but there has been many a  Tory , I could admire for there sheer competence.
Why oh!why , did the Tobys , of this world mistake this fella,s bluster, for  any semblance  of competence. The man was already famous for gaffs . Did they think that was just his jokey side, and nothing more?

He was the only one to promise Brexit.

Good old

Quote from: Dynamis on September 18, 2020, 07:13:22 PM
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/i-admit-it-i-was-wrong-to-back-boris
Quote
Magazine: 19 September 2020

Toby Young
I admit it: I was wrong to back Boris
From magazine issue: 19 September 2020
I admit it: I was wrong to back Boris

A friend emailed me earlier this week in despair about the Prime Minister. 'Boris reminds me of a hereditary king — Edward II or Henry VI — who is so staggeringly incompetent that he must be removed before doing too much damage,' he wrote. 'I felt the same way about May but Boris is worse.'

Nice. I agree needless to say, even the right wing media across all papers have solidly turned their fire on him.

It looks like the Tory knives are sharpening as more and more resign from key posts, this is a slow mo train crash mein freunds, make no mistake.

"Oh no, another bash the Tories thread by Dinnermiss or dinner lady or whatever that miserable scrote's name is! KEEL HIM!"

There has been some accidents waiting to happen looking for the keys to No 10, over the years , all parties.included.
But this bloke was so obviously not going to be much use in a crisis .  I would not vote for them, but there has been many a  Tory , I could admire for there sheer competence.
Why oh!why , did the Tobys , of this world mistake this fella,s bluster, for  any semblance  of competence. The man was already famous for gaffs . Did they think that was just his jokey side, and nothing more?