Trump’s mental state deteriorating dangerously due to impeachment: Psychiatrists ?

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Streetwalker

Quote from: "Hyperduck Quack Quack" post_id=24872 time=1589647593 user_id=103
The initial appearance of Covid-19 in the USA and early spread can't be blamed on Trump any more than its appearance in other countries can be blamed on their leaders.



BUT . . . and it's a very big BUT . . . the chaotic way he's handled the unfolding tragedy is appalling.  



It looks like Trump is hopeless at handling any crisis unless he actually created it, drew its road-map and wrote its script.



  . . . that's normal politics, isn't it


The president of the USA is not a dictator he is the head of a democracy . Yes of course he gets a big say in whats what but surely he is advised as to the best way forward , what his options are and what he had best steer clear of . (Or Im following the science as Boris says )



  All the worlds leaders ,even those of a red persuasion make very few decisions without advisement  ,yes the buck stops at the top but many heads will roll before it gets there .



But yes ,

Its been a bad Corona for Trump , not many leaders are getting off scot-free and Trump is having to deal with this in the middle of a re-election campaign . If the democrats had anyone of worth or under 70 to put forward he might have been in a bit of trouble .

Hyperduck Quack Quack

The initial appearance of Covid-19 in the USA and early spread can't be blamed on Trump any more than its appearance in other countries can be blamed on their leaders.



BUT . . . and it's a very big BUT . . . the chaotic way he's handled the unfolding tragedy is appalling.  



It looks like Trump is hopeless at handling any crisis unless he actually created it, drew its road-map and wrote its script.


Quote . . . but this campaign against him was started the moment the Democrats lost.
 . . . that's normal politics, isn't it

Churchill

I don't take much notice of American Polotics but it seems to be chaotic and their elections go on for ever, Trump is flamboyant eccentric larger than life character, his social skills are not great to say the least, but this campaign against him was started the moment the Democrats lost.
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Barry

You've got a point, SW, even Sky News are saying this is going nowhere, so it is an own goal by the left.
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Streetwalker

Quote from: Barry post_id=10613 time=1576705935 user_id=51
It does look as if the senate will vote this evening to impeach President Trump. This doesn't mean he will have to stand down. Bill Clinton was impeached, it didn't stop him.

The vote to impeach will be along party lines with Nancy Pelosi leading the majority democrats to vote for impeachment, although it's not about politics at all, is it?

Justice has to be seen to be done.

We'll see how the case goes...


I know its confusing Barry but its the House of representatives (democrat majority ) that have voted to Impeach Trump . He will face trial at the Senate (republican majority )  so its pretty clear he will not be found guilty of anything  or removed from office .

Im not sure where the democrats are going with this . An impeachment trial in the new year which will clear Trump of any wrong doing will surely rubber stamp another 4 years of Republican government . Had they left the accusations hanging over his head they would have had more chance of removing him in November

Barry

It does look as if the senate will vote this evening to impeach President Trump. This doesn't mean he will have to stand down. Bill Clinton was impeached, it didn't stop him.

The vote to impeach will be along party lines with Nancy Pelosi leading the majority democrats to vote for impeachment, although it's not about politics at all, is it?

Justice has to be seen to be done.

We'll see how the case goes...
† The end is nigh †

Baron von Lotsov

Quote from: Barry post_id=8523 time=1575643334 user_id=51
But he hasn't really messed the world up, has he, Pat?

Obama did his best with that by promoting the so called "arab spring" which led to civil wars and instability which we are still seeing in Syria, Iran, Lebanon and Libya.

Trump has a non intervention policy and seems to try sticking to it.


So what are 362bn dollars of tariffs doing on Chinese goods which were not there before Trump pursued his 'non intervention policy'?
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patman post

Quote from: Barry post_id=8635 time=1575731244 user_id=51
Is that an admission he hasn't messed up the world? You didn't argue and you didn't post one of those "I'm stabbing you in the back, but it's sort of wrapped up in sweet wrappers", comment. I'll call that a win. Trump's no saint, that's for sure, but he hasn't messed up the world. The rest of the World is doing a good enough job of that. Although wars do seem to be dying down rather than starting up.

This seems to be an argument where both sides are contending that snow is white. I think I posted (no, I know I posted) "[Trump] has five more unbalanced years at most to mess the world up..."
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Barry

Quote from: "patman post" post_id=8623 time=1575723467 user_id=70
Trump's in power for a max of 8 years. It's good he's 75% through his first term without major disaster. Let's hope he gets through next year without neutralising or sabotaging more international accords, or worse — and the 4 years after that if he's re-elected...

Is that an admission he hasn't messed up the world? You didn't argue and you didn't post one of those "I'm stabbing you in the back, but it's sort of wrapped up in sweet wrappers", comment. I'll call that a win. Trump's no saint, that's for sure, but he hasn't messed up the world. The rest of the World is doing a good enough job of that. Although wars do seem to be dying down rather than starting up.
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patman post

Quote from: Barry post_id=8523 time=1575643334 user_id=51
But he hasn't really messed the world up, has he, Pat?

Obama did his best with that by promoting the so called "arab spring" which led to civil wars and instability which we are still seeing in Syria, Iran, Lebanon and Libya.

Trump has a non intervention policy and seems to try sticking to it.

Trump's in power for a max of 8 years. It's good he's 75% through his first term without major disaster. Let's hope he gets through next year without neutralising or sabotaging more international accords, or worse — and the 4 years after that if he's re-elected...
On climate change — we're talking, we're beginning to act, but we're still not doing enough...

Churchill

He is an eccentric a little unpredictable in company and tends to say what he thinks, when he should think before he says something
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Borchester

Quote from: Barry post_id=8523 time=1575643334 user_id=51
But he hasn't really messed the world up, has he, Pat?

Obama did his best with that by promoting the so called "arab spring" which led to civil wars and instability which we are still seeing in Syria, Iran, Lebanon and Libya.

Trump has a non intervention policy and seems to try sticking to it.


True. Underneath all the bluster Trump appears to be a cautious soul whose foreign policy appears to be to bring the legions home. and let the rest of the world pay for its own defenses, something that is currently pissing of the Germans.
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Barry

But he hasn't really messed the world up, has he, Pat?

Obama did his best with that by promoting the so called "arab spring" which led to civil wars and instability which we are still seeing in Syria, Iran, Lebanon and Libya.

Trump has a non intervention policy and seems to try sticking to it.
† The end is nigh †

patman post



The Doomsday Clock remains at 2 minutes to midnight, as close to the symbolic point of annihilation that the iconic Clock has been since 1953 at the height of the Cold War.

In January 2017, the Doomsday Clock's minute hand edged forward by 30 seconds, to two and a half minutes before midnight. For the first time, the Doomsday Clock was influenced by statements from an incoming US President, Donald Trump, regarding the proliferation and the prospect of actually using nuclear weapons, as well as statements made in opposition to US commitments regarding climate change.  Last year, the Doomsday Clock moved forward again to two minutes before midnight.


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Whatever one's political views, surely it's difficult to believe Trump is a safe pair of small hands — he has no friends in the Western world, is openly mocked by his closest so-called allies, and comes across as a thin-skinned and spiteful spoiled brat — a bit like Kim Jong-un. Luckily, he doesn't have as much of an iron grasp on his people as the N Korean president and only has five more unbalanced years at most to mess the world up...
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papasmurf

So no-one can verify the article. (Which I find odd as so many news outlets are running it.)
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