Trump at it again...

Started by B0ycey, May 23, 2020, 09:19:06 AM

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Nalaar

It's difficult to imagine who would see this as a positive policy to even project as a possibility, much less enforce.
Don't believe everything you think.

Hyperduck Quack Quack

Now he's threatening to shut down social media platforms.  That will hit Republican voters just as much as Democrat ones.  It won't help him in the run-up to the presidential election.

Hyperduck Quack Quack

Quote from: B0ycey post_id=25635 time=1590234922 user_id=116
Well its safe for Malaria, so it isn't like "Burnt Bread causes cancer" sensationalization if that helps.

"Safe" or just "the lesser of two evils".

papasmurf

Quote from: Streetwalker post_id=25672 time=1590246255 user_id=53
Apart from when used in Patients who are not hypersensitive


No drugs are safe. All have problems to a greater or lesser degree.
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Streetwalker

Quote from: papasmurf post_id=25639 time=1590235954 user_id=89
It isn't  "safe" for anything:-






Apart from when used in Patients who are not hypersensitive

papasmurf

Quote from: B0ycey post_id=25635 time=1590234922 user_id=116
Well its safe for Malaria,


It isn't  "safe" for anything:-



More at link:-



https://www.pdr.net/drug-summary/Plaquenil-hydroxychloroquine-sulfate-1911">https://www.pdr.net/drug-summary/Plaque ... lfate-1911">https://www.pdr.net/drug-summary/Plaquenil-hydroxychloroquine-sulfate-1911

CONTRAINDICATIONS / PRECAUTIONS

General Information

Hydroxychloroquine is contraindicated in patients with known hypersensitivity to 4-aminoquinoline compounds.



Asian patients, ocular disease, visual disturbance

Severe and irreversible retinal damage has been reported with the use of hydroxychloroquine. Risk factors for retinal damage include daily doses more than 6.5 mg/kg (5 mg/kg base) of actual body weight, durations of use greater than 5 years, subnormal glomerular filtration, use of concomitant drugs such as tamoxifen, and concurrent macular disease. A baseline ocular exam should be performed within the first year of hydroxychloroquine treatment. This baseline exam should include best corrected distance visual acuity (BCVA), an automated threshold visual field (VF) of the central 10 degrees (with retesting if an abnormality is noted), and spectral domain ocular coherence tomography (SD-OCT). Annual exams are recommended for patients with significant risk factors for retinal damage. For patients without significant risk factors, annual exams may be deferred until 5 years of treatment. In Asian patients, retinal toxicity may first be noticed outside the macula; therefore, visual field testing should be performed in the central 24 degrees instead of the central 10 degrees. Discontinue hydroxychloroquine if ocular toxicity is suspected and monitor the patient closely for ocular disease (i.e., retinal changes) and visual disturbance which may progress even after discontinuation of therapy.
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

B0ycey

Quote from: Streetwalker post_id=25630 time=1590233402 user_id=53
To be fair there are not many a product ,drink or foodstuff that medical research has not over the years told us is bad for us . Maybe in 6 months they will like many of their previous warnings be telling us it is safe after all or even a godsend in keeping us healthy .



On the other hand Trump may have a touch of arthritis for which it is already saying has clearance .



Sounds a bit  border line to me on the plus and minus side so 'epic fail' may be stretching it a bit though I would agree he shouldn't be promoting personal medication


Well its safe for Malaria, so it isn't like "Burnt Bread causes cancer" sensationalization if that helps.



The point is Trump reads something in the press and before peer review endorses it. And if he isn't doing that he is speaking out aloud on ideas of his that "could work". He is undermining his own medical advice by hunches and people follow his advice because he is President.



Also, do you think he is the only person on Hydroxychloroquine, believing they will be safe from Covid because of it? No chance. Especially as he has spoken of its protective properties for the past few months now and his idiot supporters follow his every word. And as it turns out, there appears to be nothing in Hydroxychloroquine, so although it isn't going to kill you like bleach, it might kill you if you take an unnecessary risk when you are high risk.

Streetwalker

To be fair there are not many a product ,drink or foodstuff that medical research has not over the years told us is bad for us . Maybe in 6 months they will like many of their previous warnings be telling us it is safe after all or even a godsend in keeping us healthy .



On the other hand Trump may have a touch of arthritis for which it is already saying has clearance .



Sounds a bit  border line to me on the plus and minus side so 'epic fail' may be stretching it a bit though I would agree he shouldn't be promoting personal medication

B0ycey

:fcplm:



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-52779309">//https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-52779309



Seems like Dr. Trump has another epic fail. Turns out hydroxychloroquine causes more deaths. You can't make this shit up.



It is turning out to be a competition between Bolsonaro and Trump to who can have the worse Covid response.  :lol: