Extreme poverty ‘will double by Christmas’ in UK because of Covid-19

Started by Dynamis, September 14, 2020, 09:47:37 AM

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Borg Refinery

< trying to keep up.

Ok, so the latest skim read (the messages are coming thick and fast now) tells me:

Thomas is an agony aunt of dubious sexuality who keeps asking susan boyle if his 'dynorod' is working on a sunday afternoon, as he needs it to work to infiltrate lefty political circles at uni so he can be the scottish kim philby. 🤔
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Thomas

Quote from: Borchester on September 20, 2020, 02:56:42 PM

No. It is about being of dubious sexuality and lefty politics so that you get security of tenure at a decent University. That way poverty will be last year's fashion.

Try to keep up Dyno.

Dubious sexuality?

FFS borkie , have you read the agony aunt section of the socialist workers pamphlet recently?

Dear Agony Aunt,

Every time I see pictures of sex images, I get a huge erection. Does this mean there is something wrong with me?

Dear Susan...YES
An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t-Saoghail!

T00ts

You are both wrong - Dynamis and Borchester - it's about making ourselves feel better on a Sunday afternoon as we realise that no matter what we think or do, we can't change the ways of the world.  Not yet anyway!!  Time will come. ::)

Borchester

Quote from: Dynamis on September 20, 2020, 02:45:07 PM
So the overall message from skim reading the above messages I got is: extreme poverty will double by Christmas because of skanky transsiberian lesbo's in swalecliff invading the labour party who have yet to grow up in their factional politics so ner ner ner ner ner?  :D

No. It is about being of dubious sexuality and lefty politics so that you get security of tenure at a decent University. That way poverty will be last year's fashion.

Try to keep up Dyno.
Algerie Francais !

Borg Refinery

This thread is about wearing a donkey jacket and smoking a pipe, and feeling sorry for oliver twist...and sending a lump of coal to a poor kid in need. You've turnt it into the sunday sport you thread wreckers.
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T00ts

Quote from: Dynamis on September 20, 2020, 02:45:07 PM
So the overall message from skim reading the above messages I got is: extreme poverty will double by Christmas because of skanky transsiberian lesbo's in swalecliff invading the labour party who have yet to grow up in their factional politics so ner ner ner ner ner?  :D

By George he's got it!   ;D ;D





























Borg Refinery

So the overall message from skim reading the above messages I got is: extreme poverty will double by Christmas because of skanky transsiberian lesbo's in swalecliff invading the labour party who have yet to grow up in their factional politics so ner ner ner ner ner?  :D
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T00ts

Quote from: Borchester on September 20, 2020, 02:33:45 PM
Quote from: DeppityDawg on September 20, 2020, 02:11:04 PM
Quote from: Thomas on September 20, 2020, 11:57:32 AMI agree with what you have written , but the same thing can be said in terms of having differing factions in  all the other parties out there as well.

I have comented on the snp and our factions ( aye we have the woke types too) we remember the different factions in the liberals under clegg , we have repeatedly commented on the tory factions expecially over europe , so i dont think this is unusual.

What im commenting to steve is he wishes to portray the blairite faction as something else outwith his labour party , so he can run away from their inglorious record , while trying to ignore the fact if you vote labour , you are voting momemtum and blairite as one.

He can't keep running away from labours past record in power as though it wasnt his labour party , hence my comment to him

That's true, but with other parties, the tail doesn't wag the dog to the same extent that it does with Labour. For example, here is an article that shows you the corrosive effect of identity politics, where Jess Phillips gets out-woked by an even more extreme example of the kind of shite we have to put up with from Labour - so she comes under fire for the "whiteness" of her "feminism".

https://gal-dem.com/heres-why-weve-got-no-time-for-jess-phillips/

This is "intersectionality" apparently - a theory where everyone's own particular brand of victimhood sits in a league table, all trying to "out victim" the next. I am so fecking sick of this shit - Phillips is an MP whose seat is wasted, along with so many of the rest of Labour's MPs now. To use this woman's own complaint, the rest of us have no time for Jess Phillips or Leah Cowan, so they can both f**k off, along with the rest of the whole skanky "victim group" circus, and give us our fecking party back

I have just had a chat to my daughter about this. She is a lesbian, recently married to her girlfriend and should have a fairly secure position in the looney leftie circles in which she moves.

Sadly that is not the case. First of all she is white and secondly the in thing these days is to be transgender and possibly worst of all, she has a sense of humour.

She enjoys strutting up and down Queen Street in Cardiff and shouting whatever bollocks is in fashion, but the way things are going  I can see her quietly voting Tory at the next election.

Isn't it oft said that Labour's voters tend to be those who have yet to grow up. I do wonder why Labour is so very keen to drop the voting age yet again down to 16.

Borchester

Quote from: DeppityDawg on September 20, 2020, 02:11:04 PM
Quote from: Thomas on September 20, 2020, 11:57:32 AMI agree with what you have written , but the same thing can be said in terms of having differing factions in  all the other parties out there as well.

I have comented on the snp and our factions ( aye we have the woke types too) we remember the different factions in the liberals under clegg , we have repeatedly commented on the tory factions expecially over europe , so i dont think this is unusual.

What im commenting to steve is he wishes to portray the blairite faction as something else outwith his labour party , so he can run away from their inglorious record , while trying to ignore the fact if you vote labour , you are voting momemtum and blairite as one.

He can't keep running away from labours past record in power as though it wasnt his labour party , hence my comment to him

That's true, but with other parties, the tail doesn't wag the dog to the same extent that it does with Labour. For example, here is an article that shows you the corrosive effect of identity politics, where Jess Phillips gets out-woked by an even more extreme example of the kind of shite we have to put up with from Labour - so she comes under fire for the "whiteness" of her "feminism".

https://gal-dem.com/heres-why-weve-got-no-time-for-jess-phillips/

This is "intersectionality" apparently - a theory where everyone's own particular brand of victimhood sits in a league table, all trying to "out victim" the next. I am so fecking sick of this shit - Phillips is an MP whose seat is wasted, along with so many of the rest of Labour's MPs now. To use this woman's own complaint, the rest of us have no time for Jess Phillips or Leah Cowan, so they can both f**k off, along with the rest of the whole skanky "victim group" circus, and give us our fecking party back

I have just had a chat to my daughter about this. She is a lesbian, recently married to her girlfriend and should have a fairly secure position in the looney leftie circles in which she moves.

Sadly that is not the case. First of all she is white and secondly the in thing these days is to be transgender and possibly worst of all, she has a sense of humour.

She enjoys strutting up and down Queen Street in Cardiff and shouting whatever bollocks is in fashion, but the way things are going  I can see her quietly voting Tory at the next election.
Algerie Francais !

Thomas

Quote from: DeppityDawg on September 20, 2020, 02:11:04 PM
Quote from: Thomas on September 20, 2020, 11:57:32 AMI agree with what you have written , but the same thing can be said in terms of having differing factions in  all the other parties out there as well.

I have comented on the snp and our factions ( aye we have the woke types too) we remember the different factions in the liberals under clegg , we have repeatedly commented on the tory factions expecially over europe , so i dont think this is unusual.

What im commenting to steve is he wishes to portray the blairite faction as something else outwith his labour party , so he can run away from their inglorious record , while trying to ignore the fact if you vote labour , you are voting momemtum and blairite as one.

He can't keep running away from labours past record in power as though it wasnt his labour party , hence my comment to him

That's true, but with other parties, the tail doesn't wag the dog to the same extent that it does with Labour. For example, here is an article that shows you the corrosive effect of identity politics, where Jess Phillips gets out-woked by an even more extreme example of the kind of shite we have to put up with from Labour - so she comes under fire for the "whiteness" of her "feminism".

https://gal-dem.com/heres-why-weve-got-no-time-for-jess-phillips/

This is "intersectionality" apparently - a theory where everyone's own particular brand of victimhood sits in a league table, all trying to "out victim" the next. I am so fecking sick of this shit - Phillips is an MP whose seat is wasted, along with so many of the rest of Labour's MPs now. To use this woman's own complaint, the rest of us have no time for Jess Phillips or Leah Cowan, so they can both f**k off, along with the rest of the whole skanky "victim group" circus, and give us our fecking party back


again i agree with you deppity , but as you know , this isnt just affecting england , but scotland america and the whole of the western world.

The snp have their woke wing too which is at all out war with the rest of the party.

Brother in law says the same is happening in france with french politics. All across the western world there seems to be growing distance and complete disconnect between the liberal elite and the ordinary people.
An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t-Saoghail!

DeppityDawg

Quote from: Thomas on September 20, 2020, 11:57:32 AMI agree with what you have written , but the same thing can be said in terms of having differing factions in  all the other parties out there as well.

I have comented on the snp and our factions ( aye we have the woke types too) we remember the different factions in the liberals under clegg , we have repeatedly commented on the tory factions expecially over europe , so i dont think this is unusual.

What im commenting to steve is he wishes to portray the blairite faction as something else outwith his labour party , so he can run away from their inglorious record , while trying to ignore the fact if you vote labour , you are voting momemtum and blairite as one.

He can't keep running away from labours past record in power as though it wasnt his labour party , hence my comment to him

That's true, but with other parties, the tail doesn't wag the dog to the same extent that it does with Labour. For example, here is an article that shows you the corrosive effect of identity politics, where Jess Phillips gets out-woked by an even more extreme example of the kind of shite we have to put up with from Labour - so she comes under fire for the "whiteness" of her "feminism".

https://gal-dem.com/heres-why-weve-got-no-time-for-jess-phillips/

This is "intersectionality" apparently - a theory where everyone's own particular brand of victimhood sits in a league table, all trying to "out victim" the next. I am so fecking sick of this shit - Phillips is an MP whose seat is wasted, along with so many of the rest of Labour's MPs now. To use this woman's own complaint, the rest of us have no time for Jess Phillips or Leah Cowan, so they can both f**k off, along with the rest of the whole skanky "victim group" circus, and give us our fecking party back





Thomas

Quote from: DeppityDawg on September 20, 2020, 11:48:49 AM
Quote from: Thomas on September 19, 2020, 10:42:44 AMYou arent two different parties , no matter how much you wish us to think so

I think that's the problem - Labour is two (possibly more) different parties now. It has a position on every single minority issue, but forgets you have to get the majority vote to become a governing party. I'm sick and tired of hearing Jess Phillips bring feminist bullshit into everything, of Dianne Abbott constantly bleating about every criticism of her is "racist", of the transgender "movement" taking over every conversation

Labour was fond of saying it was a "broad Church". Its become too broad, too focused on minority and woke political issues, and the majority, who are not feminists, who are white, who aren't "confused" about our gender or sexuality, have had E-f**king-nough of it. I'm tired of hearing their constant minority issue shite. You don't win elections with "likes" on social media, but with votes in the ballot box. Start representing the majority view, instead of constantly calling them mysoginists, racists and homo/trans-phobes, concentrate on policies that effect the majority, and they might just win a fecking election

I agree with what you have written , but the same thing can be said in terms of having differing factions in  all the other parties out there as well.

I have comented on the snp and our factions ( aye we have the woke types too) we remember the different factions in the liberals under clegg , we have repeatedly commented on the tory factions expecially over europe , so i dont think this is unusual.

What im commenting to steve is he wishes to portray the blairite faction as something else outwith his labour party , so he can run away from their inglorious record , while trying to ignore the fact if you vote labour , you are voting momemtum and blairite as one.

He can't keep running away from labours past record in power as though it wasnt his labour party , hence my comment to him

QuoteYou arent two different parties , no matter how much you wish us to think so
An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t-Saoghail!

Thomas

I will pre empt SRB reply .........that wasnt his labour......that was new labour , and SRB`s labour are different.

The jury is still out on starmer...... ;D
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Keir Starmer's sacking of Rebecca Long-Bailey is a Blairite moment in British politics

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/keir-starmer-rebecca-long-bailey-tony-blair-corbyn-defeated-blairite-triumph-a9588896.html

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Starmer alarms Corbyn supporters with Blairite appointments

https://www.ft.com/content/5b48bf77-b708-4d94-86d4-353f9abb4d32


Quote   UK opposition leader Keir Starmer has completed his shadow ministerial line-up by appointing a number of former Blairite MPs to the front bench, in a move which has caused concern among some on the left of the party.

Sir Keir's final team includes a number of big figures in the party who chose to "sit out" the years when Jeremy Corbyn was leader, including former business minister Pat McFadden and former leadership contenders Liz Kendall and Jess Phillips.

The new Labour leader, who was elected on Saturday, had already unveiled a shadow cabinet almost entirely drawn from the "soft left" of the party — including figures such as Mr Corbyn's predecessor, Ed Miliband.

Ed Milliband , described as the soft left of the party lmfao , and liz kendall???

FFS a number of labour supporters and political commentators have oftern remarked liz is so far to the right of the labour party she should be in the conservatives.

The jury is sitll out though on sir keir knight of the realm starmer  :D
An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t-Saoghail!

DeppityDawg

Quote from: Thomas on September 19, 2020, 10:42:44 AMYou arent two different parties , no matter how much you wish us to think so

I think that's the problem - Labour is two (possibly more) different parties now. It has a position on every single minority issue, but forgets you have to get the majority vote to become a governing party. I'm sick and tired of hearing Jess Phillips bring feminist bullshit into everything, of Dianne Abbott constantly bleating about every criticism of her is "racist", of the transgender "movement" taking over every conversation

Labour was fond of saying it was a "broad Church". Its become too broad, too focused on minority and woke political issues, and the majority, who are not feminists, who are white, who aren't "confused" about our gender or sexuality, have had E-fucking-nough of it. I'm tired of hearing their constant minority issue shite. You don't win elections with "likes" on social media, but with votes in the ballot box. Start representing the majority view, instead of constantly calling them mysoginists, racists and homo/trans-phobes, concentrate on policies that effect the majority, and they might just win a fecking election

Thomas

Quote from: johnofgwent on September 20, 2020, 11:30:26 AM


Thanks for that.

I have in the past focussed on the fact over their 13 years in power Labour did sod all to reverse the destruction of health provision and in several important ways made things worse, it's interesting to see they were pretty much just as effective in combating inequality of living standards...

The  size of the inequality gap between the richest ten per cent in the yookay and the poorest ten per cent grew by 13% , or 1 % for each year labour were last in power at westminster.

While steve is on here bleating incessantly about the evil tories and inequality bla blah blah , dont forget labour told us they were extremely relaxed about the inequality gap growing when they were last in power...

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/mark-steel/mark-steel-still-relaxed-about-the-filthy-rich-6297581.html

snd when they get voted out , all of a sudden they start caring about inequality , the poor, bankers getting rich etc etc etc...

QuoteI'm not sure I've read it right, but is the Labour Party AGAINST bankers getting million-pound bonuses now? Maybe we all misunderstood their policy for 15 years. When Peter Mandelson said he was "intensely relaxed about people becoming filthy rich", he didn't mean it was all right for bankers like Stephen Hester to be offered a bonus of £963,000. He must have drawn the line at £962,000. That would be filthy rich, which is fine and relaxing, but £963,000 is taking the piss.

And when he spent weekends on the yacht of multi-billionaire Oleg Deripaska, he can't have had any idea Oleg was an obscenely wealthy businessman, and must have assumed he'd won the yacht as the star prize on Family Fortunes.

All those years when Labour leaders addressed banquets in the City with speeches that went "O beloved investment bankers, permit us to lay down meekly before your immeasurable wisdom and beg for a glimpse of the mighty hedge funds you so ably manipulate. Only those who swipe gargantuan bonuses for no discernible reason are truly men in the eyes of GOD. To suggest even for a second you should be regulated would be criminal, nay evil, a folly that would bring the apocalypse itself upon us, and we would deserve every locust that devoured us alive, for the bigger your bonus the more divine you are", that did not in any way imply that Labour was in favour of bankers earning a bonus of more than three or four pounds.


QuoteThroughout the years of Labour government, boardroom pay rose by 5,000 per cent, which was in line with the New Labour pledge to take every company director out of poverty by the year 2008. But now their pay is going up even more and that's unnecessary, so Ed Miliband has decided it's gone too far.

To see how the Labour Party despises people making themselves ridiculously rich at the expense of everyone else, you only have to look at Tony Blair's modest lifestyle, in which he's never used his status to make money for himself. Instead, he chugs along with seven houses and 45 million quid like a Franciscan bloody monk.

Luckily for the Labour Party, its sudden conversion to being appalled at banker bonuses appears to have happened the same week that the whole country announces its disgust, which I'm sure is just a coincidence and Labour is genuinely shocked and dismayed on principle.

Because how could the party have known bankers would interpret New Labour's calls to enrich themselves in a deregulated frenzy by enriching themselves in a deregulated frenzy? And how could New Labour know bankers were taking billions out of the economy every year? They didn't have time to read the papers, they were running the country.

An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t-Saoghail!