Marcus Rashford: Horseboxes, chip shops and cafes back school meals campaign

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T00ts

Quote from: papasmurf on October 27, 2020, 05:52:14 PM
Frankly Bojo-The-Clown should be ashamed of himself as should the 322 Tory MPs who voted down the food for children.

They didn't vote down food for children they voted down any more cash for it. They have already given money for this to local authorities, I just wonder how many of them have actually chosen to use it thus.

papasmurf

Quote from: T00ts on October 27, 2020, 05:45:39 PM
That's just more of the same. Anything to put anything Conservative down. It doesn't matter what they do they can't please everyone. It has become a national fiesta of complaining. It is helping no-one.

Frankly Bojo-The-Clown should be ashamed of himself as should the 322 Tory MPs who voted down the food for children.
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T00ts

Quote from: papasmurf on October 27, 2020, 05:40:34 PM
That no child would go hungry. (Numerous sources.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nWUZXPFXXE

That's just more of the same. Anything to put anything Conservative down. It doesn't matter what they do they can't please everyone. It has become a national fiesta of complaining. It is helping no-one.


T00ts

Quote from: papasmurf on October 27, 2020, 05:20:54 PM
He stated it live on TV news, so there is no hypocrisy involved. It was and is a lie an he knows it.

He stated what? That he would personally vet every family on their doorstep or flat door or refuge centre? He can only hope for what our representatives will or can do locally. You show me anywhere that is going to work 24/7  to accomplish what the current hysteria is demanding. One thing that has really hit home for me in recent months is the sheer incompetence throughout society at present.

papasmurf

Quote from: T00ts on October 27, 2020, 05:16:45 PM
That's just ridiculous hypocrisy.

He stated it live on TV news, so there is no hypocrisy involved. It was and is a lie an he knows it.
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T00ts

Quote from: papasmurf on October 27, 2020, 05:11:07 PM
Of course it is Bojo-The-Clown said it.

That's just ridiculous hypocrisy. It doesn't matter who says it from any level of government down to the local school. No-one can make such a promise and it is totally unrealistic to demand it. No-one wants hungry children at any time but actually we don't want hungry parents either. The children line makes it so much more saleable as another ploy to make all the gullible believe that life isn't fair. If you know of families near you and you have enough to share put your hands in your pocket or something on the stove.

papasmurf

Quote from: T00ts on October 27, 2020, 04:46:07 PM
It's all empty rhetoric. There is no way that they can promise that no child will go hungry. It's all bunkum to pull on heart strings and cloud the issues.

Of course it is Bojo-The-Clown said it.
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Streetwalker

Quote from: Thomas on October 27, 2020, 02:54:34 PM
No.

All that does is devolve responsibility and blame without devolving power.

Why is it apologists for uk governments like yourself always like to parrot this sort of stuff without talking about funding?

How about devolving taxation away from westmisnter control to local level , and then local councils paying westminster a small fee out of local taxation for stuff like foreign affairs , armed forces and the like?

As we in scotland and the other nations of the yookay have found to our cost , you can only do so much with basic limited devolved power while your government in your capital city holds all the purse stings .

Power devolved is power retained .

I agree ,it might even make people think a bit clearer when electing local government . The shisters at Croydon have got wind that redundancies for public sector employees is to be capped at £90K .  We have already had one 'retire' with a £400,000  thank you  with others rumoured to have resigned (awaiting details) and replaced with their underlings no doubt armed with everything needed to fleece the rate payer

T00ts

It's all empty rhetoric. There is no way that they can promise that no child will go hungry. It's all bunkum to pull on heart strings and cloud the issues. Central government has less chance of fulfilling such a promise than local councils, and let's face it they won't succeed either. No-one knows what goes on behind every front door in the land. Good intentions won't change it.

I'm amazed that anyone is buying into the deceit. Yes the promise can be made, money thrown at it and everyone settles back safe in the knowledge that the miracle will happen. It's nonsense. It's just another stick to beat authority and the 'privileged' with.


patman post

Hackney has received an additional £32m Covid-19 funding.
This is on top of the usual government funding and council tax income, which pays for its departments/functions/services below (each with a chief executive with a salary of £115,000 or more):

• Legal & Governance Services
• Communications, Culture & Engagement
• HR & OD (Human resources & Organisational Development)
• Strategy, Policy & Economic Development
• Children, Adults and Community Health
• Children & Families
• Adult Services
• Education & Schools
• Public Health
• Finance & Corporate Resources
• Financial Management
• Customer Services
• Neighbourhoods & Housing Finance
• Children, Adults & CH Finance
• Strategic Property
• Neighbourhoods & Housing
• Public Realm

Housing and ICT services are with external agencies

Hackney claims it's already cooperating with local organisations to provide free school meals over holiday periods. So are other Local authorities in London and elsewhere. They know what's required and are already on the ground.
It's easy to blame the govt for not doing it all, but it's a local need...

On climate change — we're talking, we're beginning to act, but we're still not doing enough...

papasmurf

Quote from: patman post on October 27, 2020, 02:37:43 PM


But spinning it, the mayor says he's proud that so many schools, businesses and volunteers have already pledged to help struggling families this half-term.

Putting aside the politics, isn't support for the vulnerable better this way — locally researched, locally targeted, locally supported, and locally delivered...?

But centrally funded. The numbers in each area are known, all that is needed for government to fund weekends and holidays.
The government are being nasty callous bastards over the issue as as the Tory MPs who voted against it.  The Tory MPs are getting the stick they deserve.
I can't find a suitable plate to send my MP. (Yet.)
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Thomas

Quote from: patman post on October 27, 2020, 02:37:43 PM


Putting aside the politics, isn't support for the vulnerable better this way — locally researched, locally targeted, locally supported, and locally delivered...?

No.

All that does is devolve responsibility and blame without devolving power.

Why is it apologists for uk governments like yourself always like to parrot this sort of stuff without talking about funding?

How about devolving taxation away from westmisnter control to local level , and then local councils paying westminster a small fee out of local taxation for stuff like foreign affairs , armed forces and the like?

As we in scotland and the other nations of the yookay have found to our cost , you can only do so much with basic limited devolved power while your government in your capital city holds all the purse stings .

Power devolved is power retained .
An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t-Saoghail!

patman post

Quote from: Streetwalker on October 27, 2020, 01:36:08 PM
So is my labour council , They have gone near bankrupt having run up a staggering £1.5 Billion debt whilst following socialist policies and giving themselves sports stars wages
London Borough of Hackney has 18 Chief Officers who are paid between £115,000 and £180,061, five of them are paid more than the PM.

But Hackney Council said on 23 October it will support Marcus Rashford's campaign and ensure that no child goes hungry this half-term following the Government's failure to fund free school meal vouchers during the holiday.

The borough has more than 11,000 pupils eligible for free school meals — and the Council reports it already works with local food charities and organisations to ensure vulnerable families get support during the school holidays, including provision of vouchers to buy fresh fruit and vegetables.

But spinning it, the mayor says he's proud that so many schools, businesses and volunteers have already pledged to help struggling families this half-term.

Putting aside the politics, isn't support for the vulnerable better this way — locally researched, locally targeted, locally supported, and locally delivered...?


On climate change — we're talking, we're beginning to act, but we're still not doing enough...

Streetwalker

Quote from: papasmurf on October 27, 2020, 12:41:40 PM

My local MP is a bloody disgrace.

So is my labour council , They have gone near bankrupt having run up a staggering £1.5 Billion debt whilst following socialist policies and giving themselves sports stars wages