We have been part of an experiment

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Scott777

Quote from: papasmurf on August 15, 2021, 09:53:12 AM
I have needle phobia, however despite that I have a flue jab, every year, I have a had a number of other jabs in recent years, I have at least six blood tests a year, and since last March I have been injecting myself in the stomach area once a week. (In the latter instance it was Hobson's choice try this treatment or die.)
You are so brave.  But needles are not why people refuse the experimental treatment.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Scott777

Quote from: HDQQ on August 15, 2021, 09:47:23 AM
There's a question the misguided anti-vaxers  need to ask themselves, and it's this. "If I were to find myself in hospital, seriously ill with covid and the doctors offered a new treatment that reduced symtoms in 99% of cases and resulted in complete cure in 95%, but it was still part an ongoing trial, would I refuse?"

For a very small number of people there might be genuine concerns about having the vaccine but for the vast majority of refusers it's all about side-issues concocted by people with political agendas, be they "me-tough-guy" libertarianism on the right or wacky conspiracy theories on the left. Oh, and probably a few people with a phobia of needles.
So many problems with your idea of what Covid is and how to deal with it.

1. There are treatments, including Ivermectin, which have been used for years and are not experimental.  You really don't need to reach the hospital stage.
2. Most people don't end up in hospital, anyway.  I didn't.
3. The jab does not result in complete cure in 95% of people.  What a load of baloney.
4. The jab is a scam, for money and control.  If the Mafia comes to your door and demands money or they won't let you leave your house, and threatens to break your legs if you try - will you pay up?  If you give in to unreasonable demands, they will demand more, and more, because they know you are a coward.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Barry

https://www.nhs.uk/every-mind-matters/coronavirus/tips-to-cope-with-anxiety-lockdown-lifting/

Quote1. Go at your own pace
2. Do not avoid things entirely
3. Get your information from the right sources
4. Discuss any changes with others
5. Make time to relax
6. Challenge unhelpful thoughts
7. Tell someone how you feel
8. Plan social occasions
9. Find routine where you can
10. Write down your thoughts
11. Focus on the present

I fear it will take more deprogramming than one gov webpage.

† The end is nigh †

Sheepy

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/familyhealth/sajid-javid-sick-of-seeing-me-on-the-tv-then-step-up-and-get-jabbed/ar-AANkjIW?ocid=msedgntp
Not particularly sick of seeing you on TV as I just turn you off, sick of all your bullshit and mind games for the plebs, that is a different matter.
I used to amuse myself with watching politicians with the sound turned off, these days you are just noise in the background emanating from a Psychotic media. 
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

Sheepy

Quote from: HDQQ on August 15, 2021, 09:47:23 AM
There's a question the misguided anti-vaxers  need to ask themselves, and it's this. "If I were to find myself in hospital, seriously ill with covid and the doctors offered a new treatment that reduced symtoms in 99% of cases and resulted in complete cure in 95%, but it was still part an ongoing trial, would I refuse?"

For a very small number of people there might be genuine concerns about having the vaccine but for the vast majority of refusers it's all about side-issues concocted by people with political agendas, be they "me-tough-guy" libertarianism on the right or wacky conspiracy theories on the left. Oh, and probably a few people with a phobia of needles.
There is that Ducky, or there are people who say, my life or death as it might be will not be ruled by you using fear as a weapon of control and enough is enough. You have obviously made your choice, but ask yourself one thing, was it free and willing consent, I already know you will have to lie to yourself.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

papasmurf

Quote from: HDQQ on August 15, 2021, 09:47:23 AM


For a very small number of people there might be genuine concerns about having the vaccine but for the vast majority of refusers it's all about side-issues concocted by people with a political agenda. Oh, and probably a few people with a phobia of needles.

I have needle phobia, however despite that I have a flue jab, every year, I have a had a number of other jabs in recent years, I have at least six blood tests a year, and since last March I have been injecting myself in the stomach area once a week. (In the latter instance it was Hobson's choice try this treatment or die.)
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

HDQQ

There's a question the misguided anti-vaxers  need to ask themselves, and it's this. "If I were to find myself in hospital, seriously ill with covid and the doctors offered a new treatment that reduced symtoms in 99% of cases and resulted in complete cure in 95%, but it was still part an ongoing trial, would I refuse?"

For a very small number of people there might be genuine concerns about having the vaccine but for the vast majority of refusers it's all about side-issues concocted by people with political agendas, be they "me-tough-guy" libertarianism on the right or wacky conspiracy theories on the left. Oh, and probably a few people with a phobia of needles.
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Sheepy

Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

Sheepy

Quote from: Scott777 on August 12, 2021, 06:36:22 PM
This video just might enlighten the brain-dead, although some socialists may struggle with the concepts.  You will fully see the relevance after 6 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M
They can only control it if you let them, the more people bypass them, the more confused they themselves become because they are following an agenda they do not believe can be bypassed. They lose central control.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

Scott777

This video just might enlighten the brain-dead, although some socialists may struggle with the concepts.  You will fully see the relevance after 6 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

papasmurf

Quote from: Scott777 on August 12, 2021, 06:21:25 PM
What?  The 10% wearing mussles are 90% stupid?  That sounds about right.  😁

The 90% who will start the next wave of Covid. (Irresponsible gits.)
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

Scott777

Quote from: papasmurf on August 11, 2021, 08:13:42 PM
90% stupid.
What?  The 10% wearing mussles are 90% stupid?  That sounds about right.  😁
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Sheepy

Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

Barry

Quote from: Sheepy on August 12, 2021, 11:23:40 AMThe worm is turning though. Hastings is buzzing today.
You should have seen Morelli's ice cream parlour in Broadstairs on Tuesday! A sardine tin would have been less tightly packed.
It's great to see things looking normal again. The fear is dissipating.
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