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Started by Major Sinic, December 16, 2019, 11:47:13 AM

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Churchill

You get a fine for doing something wrong.



You get taxed for doing something right.



 ;)
<r><COLOR color=\"#4000FF\">>After years of waiting at long last on our way out of the EU <E>]</e></COLOR></r>

johnofgwent

i KNOW it's the jokes forum, and yes, it is a good example.



except that...



Only an economics professor could think £10 a pint was reasonable.
<t>In matters of taxation, Lord Clyde\'s summing up in the 1929 case Inland Revenue v Ayrshire Pullman Services is worth a glance.</t>

papasmurf

Quote from: "Major Sinic" post_id=10268 time=1576497431 user_id=84
Recognition of a kindred spirit?


Probably because they know their tale of woe will get a sympathetic ear and help if possible.
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

Major Sinic

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But why do they have to sit next to me on an otherwise empty bus?


Recognition of a kindred spirit?

papasmurf

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Exactly! There's nowt as queer as folk!


But why do they have to sit next to me on an otherwise empty bus?
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

T00ts

Quote from: "Major Sinic" post_id=10262 time=1576496833 user_id=84
Good luck with this one !





This was posted on Facebook it is rather  long, stick with it if you can (or have the time). You will note it was compiled by a Professor of Economics











For those of you reciting the 'Tories defend the rich' argument, read this. It's worth it, I assure you.



Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to £100...

If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this...



The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.

The fifth would pay £1.

The sixth would pay £3.

The seventh would pay £7..

The eighth would pay £12.

The ninth would pay £18.

The tenth man (the richest) would pay £59.



So, that's what they decided to do..



The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball.



"Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by £20". Drinks for the ten men would now cost just £80.



The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes.



So the first four men were unaffected.



They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men?

The paying customers?



How could they divide the £20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share?



They realised that £20 divided by six is £3.33. But if they

subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.



So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.



And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving).



The sixth now paid £2 instead of £3 (33% saving).



The seventh now paid £5 instead of £7 (28% saving).

The eighth now paid £9 instead of £12 (25% saving).



The ninth now paid £14 instead of £18 (22% saving).



The tenth now paid £49 instead of £59 (16% saving).



Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings.



"I only got a pound out of the £20 saving," declared the sixth man.



He pointed to the tenth man,"but he got £10!"



"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a pound too. It's unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!"



"That's true!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get £10 back, when I got only £2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"



"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "we didn't get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!"



The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.



The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!



And that, boys and girls, journalists and government ministers, is how our tax system works.



The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction.



Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore.



In fact, they might start drinking overseas, where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.



David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.

Professor of Economics.



For those who understand, no explanation is needed.

For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.


Exactly! There's nowt as queer as folk!

Major Sinic

Good luck with this one !





This was posted on Facebook it is rather  long, stick with it if you can (or have the time). You will note it was compiled by a Professor of Economics











For those of you reciting the 'Tories defend the rich' argument, read this. It's worth it, I assure you.



Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to £100...

If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this...



The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.

The fifth would pay £1.

The sixth would pay £3.

The seventh would pay £7..

The eighth would pay £12.

The ninth would pay £18.

The tenth man (the richest) would pay £59.



So, that's what they decided to do..



The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball.



"Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by £20". Drinks for the ten men would now cost just £80.



The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes.



So the first four men were unaffected.



They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men?

The paying customers?



How could they divide the £20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share?



They realised that £20 divided by six is £3.33. But if they

subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.



So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.



And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving).



The sixth now paid £2 instead of £3 (33% saving).



The seventh now paid £5 instead of £7 (28% saving).

The eighth now paid £9 instead of £12 (25% saving).



The ninth now paid £14 instead of £18 (22% saving).



The tenth now paid £49 instead of £59 (16% saving).



Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings.



"I only got a pound out of the £20 saving," declared the sixth man.



He pointed to the tenth man,"but he got £10!"



"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a pound too. It's unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!"



"That's true!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get £10 back, when I got only £2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"



"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "we didn't get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!"



The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.



The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!



And that, boys and girls, journalists and government ministers, is how our tax system works.



The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction.



Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore.



In fact, they might start drinking overseas, where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.



David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.

Professor of Economics.



For those who understand, no explanation is needed.

For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.