QT tonight

[johnofgwent]

They are being paid by drug gangs in Albanian to come to the U.K. as drug dealers. Sounds illegal to me! Just cause they say they're seeking asylum doesn't stop them being illegal. In fact, I believe to seek asylum you have to arrive through a recognised port of entry, and Brighton beach isn't one of them.

Not entirely true Nick. You can actually rock up anywhere. What you are supposed to do then is declare yourself an asylum seeker to the first appropriate authority you find. They'll forward your case onto my wife at the Courts and Tribunals service. Which is how I know. 

what you are not suppposed to do is leg it into the woods at a rate of knots like the guys I saw on the boat outside Ipswich ... we saw this boat stuck on a sandbar as we are coming into the marina, and as we watched a load of people ran out from below, jumped over the side like lemmings from the video game and legged it into the woods near what is now AdAstra Business Park.

[johnofgwent]

Anyone claiming asylum is by definition not illegal. It is for the asylum process to determine whether their claim is bogus or not. If it is they should be on the first plane out. Asylum claims by people from supposedly safe countries still need to be processed, but this surely needs to be done a whole lot faster and thus requires more staff and investment. If the asylum seeker hails from a country which is supposedly safe, the presumption should be that the claim is bogus unless the asylum seeker can prove otherwise. But he still has the legal right for his claim to be assessed and this is where the logjam is.

Assessing claims far more quickly and throwing people out far more quickly would have a much greater deterrent effect than flying a handful of people to pigging Rwanda at enormous public expense. It's the vetting process that needs to be invested in, not populist gimmicks.

This is of course the problem. Too many people are allowed to claim political asylum from the terrible persecution they face in FRANCE

[Nick]

Anyone claiming asylum is by definition not illegal. It is for the asylum process to determine whether their claim is bogus or not. If it is they should be on the first plane out. Asylum claims by people from supposedly safe countries still need to be processed, but this surely needs to be done a whole lot faster and thus requires more staff and investment. If the asylum seeker hails from a country which is supposedly safe, the presumption should be that the claim is bogus unless the asylum seeker can prove otherwise. But he still has the legal right for his claim to be assessed and this is where the logjam is.

Assessing claims far more quickly and throwing people out far more quickly would have a much greater deterrent effect than flying a handful of people to pigging Rwanda at enormous public expense. It's the vetting process that needs to be invested in, not populist gimmicks.

They are being paid by drug gangs in Albanian to come to the U.K. as drug dealers. Sounds illegal to me! Just cause they say they're seeking asylum doesn't stop them being illegal. In fact, I believe to seek asylum you have to arrive through a recognised port of entry, and Brighton beach isn't one of them.

[srb7677]

Just seen some woman saying Albanians aren't illegals and it's awful how they're being treated.

Albania is not an unsafe country,they're not asylum seekers they are here illegally end of.

Anyone claiming asylum is by definition not illegal. It is for the asylum process to determine whether their claim is bogus or not. If it is they should be on the first plane out. Asylum claims by people from supposedly safe countries still need to be processed, but this surely needs to be done a whole lot faster and thus requires more staff and investment. If the asylum seeker hails from a country which is supposedly safe, the presumption should be that the claim is bogus unless the asylum seeker can prove otherwise. But he still has the legal right for his claim to be assessed and this is where the logjam is.

Assessing claims far more quickly and throwing people out far more quickly would have a much greater deterrent effect than flying a handful of people to pigging Rwanda at enormous public expense. It's the vetting process that needs to be invested in, not populist gimmicks.

[Red Rackham]

QT? As in BBC Question Time? Good heavens is that still on, rhetorical. I used to enjoy it but haven't watched in years, in fact, I stopped watching it in 2016. I just got sick of constant, and I do mean constant, BBC pro EU left wing bias. If anyone is up for a bunfight, there's plenty of ammo on google

[cromwell]

I am amazed at how mixed up people have become.

I'm not and some sense at least from Theo Paphitis

[T00ts]

I am amazed at how mixed up people have become. 

[cromwell]

Just seen some woman saying Albanians aren't illegals and it's awful how they're being treated.

Albania is not an unsafe country,they're not asylum seekers they are here illegally end of.