Farage Has Amassed A £3Mil Property Empire Since Brexit

Started by Borg Refinery, September 02, 2024, 09:36:01 PM

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Unlucky4Sum

Desperately depressing.  Coastal locations without decent rail or road access to cities are depressed all over the UK.  Jaywick might just be the worst.

It isn't going to change anytime soon with government after government apparently thinking that GDP and service based employment in or with easy access to cities are the whole solution.

The UK deserves better, not holding my breath waiting to see it.

patman post

Quote from: papasmurf on September 07, 2024, 05:52:51 PM
Good grief you really very badly informed about Jaywick. What happened just after WW2 does not apply now.

Jaywick: UN poverty expert visits deprived village - BBC News

12 November 2018

"What is interesting about Jaywick Sands is how the root cause of issues around deprivation stems back to poor quality homes and a shortage of housing post-Second World War, rather than anything more immediate."
Of course what happened after WWII applies now — there's been little noticeable improvement — it's been an area of continuous deprivation that continues to absorb people "down on their luck" ever since the end of WWII.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGxWgAuWVa8&ab_channel=Wendall

I visited once, about 10 years ago. In this YouTube visit, it looks even more of a disaster area than I remember...
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papasmurf

Quote from: Streetwalker on September 07, 2024, 04:53:48 PM
Jaywick is basically a holiday camp thats inhabited by people who decided not to go home and became permanent residents .
Good grief you really very badly informed about Jaywick. What happened just after WW2 does not apply now.

Jaywick: UN poverty expert visits deprived village - BBC News

12 November 2018

"What is interesting about Jaywick Sands is how the root cause of issues around deprivation stems back to poor quality homes and a shortage of housing post-Second World War, rather than anything more immediate."
Nemini parco qui vivit in orbe

Streetwalker

Quote from: patman post on September 07, 2024, 02:28:07 PM
Don't hold your breath — it's Clacton, where Wetherspoon's The Moon and Starfish was once rated the chain's worst ever pub. As it didn't fall below Tim Martin's cut off point for his least profitable pubs, we have to assume the locals are not that discerning and will continue to support their prejudices...
What prejudices ? 
Quote from: papasmurf on September 07, 2024, 03:57:41 PM
If memory serves Jaywick is in the Clacton constituency one of the most deprived areas in the UK. If any of the residents of Jaywick voted for Farage I suspect it was out of desperation.
Jaywick is basically a holiday camp thats inhabited by people who decided not to go home and became permanent residents .Not sure what criteria they use to decide the depravity of an area but if having lots of retired ,unemployable and some who found London too expensive to live in then they probably got it right 
Maybe you should ask yourself why these people are desperate ?

papasmurf

Quote from: patman post on September 07, 2024, 02:28:07 PM
Don't hold your breath — it's Clacton, where Wetherspoon's The Moon and Starfish was once rated the chain's worst ever pub. As it didn't fall below Tim Martin's cut off point for his least profitable pubs, we have to assume the locals are not that discerning and will continue to support their prejudices...
If memory serves Jaywick is in the Clacton constituency one of the most deprived areas in the UK. If any of the residents of Jaywick voted for Farage I suspect it was out of desperation.
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patman post

Quote from: papasmurf on September 07, 2024, 09:00:12 AM
Frankly that is nonsense. It is impossible to get privacy in a pub. It appears that as yet Farage is holding no "surgeries," like other MPs do. Which he can't do until gets a constituency office. I suspect those who voted for him in Clacton will soon realise what a dreadful mistake they have made.
Don't hold your breath — it's Clacton, where Wetherspoon's The Moon and Starfish was once rated the chain's worst ever pub. As it didn't fall below Tim Martin's cut off point for his least profitable pubs, we have to assume the locals are not that discerning and will continue to support their prejudices...
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papasmurf

Quote from: Streetwalker on September 06, 2024, 09:25:26 PM

Who needs an office when you can hold court in pub ?
Frankly that is nonsense. It is impossible to get privacy in a pub. It appears that as yet Farage is holding no "surgeries," like other MPs do. Which he can't do until gets a constituency office. I suspect those who voted for him in Clacton will soon realise what a dreadful mistake they have made.
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Borg Refinery

Quote from: Nick on September 06, 2024, 09:50:33 AM
Farage has NEVER had any control over Brexit, he was just the momentum behind it.

He said he'll leave the country did he not? In his own words? Whether or not he was the controller of Brexit, he made a vow and rowed back on it.

That's not unlike his 2019 betrayal of the Brexit Party when they sided with the Tories in a sell-out deal with the 'dvil'. I thought that was a massive cop-out and sellout. And look what happened because of that? Look who attained power and ruined Brexit - even the Daily Express admits Brexit was a failure!

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1774215/brexit-opinion-poll-result-spt

QuoteRemoaner's are desperate for Brexit to fail, but it hasn't. Every issue that arose has been dealt with, some better than others.


It's no good accusing me of being some hardcore Remainer. In fact, it would be nice if there was just a party with some principles whether right wing or left - if there was a decent party with some power (like the Heritage Party but with more power) I'd say they deserve you support, they are not remoaner nor lefty in any way, but unlike Farage and Reform they actually appear to have principles. I'd like to see a party and politician with some principles given some power in the country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritage_Party_(UK)

So don't try that old trope on me. I don't think Brexit had to be the huge failure it was either, but the Brexit Party's election pact with the Tories in 2019 helped Boris attain power and that is a fact - and he botched it up. Even the Daily Express agrees the Tories ruined Brexit, yes even the Daily Express.

Maybe if you put a party in power like the Heritage Party things would have been less bad? But the Reform Party with its anti-democratic structure and the Tory Party who have destroyed themselves aren't going to make Brexit work

I mean, honestly, Liz Truss and Boris Johnson are the answer to the country's woes? 

She got beaten by a lettuce..

QuoteLabour can harp on about the state of the Country and the economy but the fact is that we have the fastest growing economy in the G7, and that's despite Covid, which has been the real issue here, not Brexit. We came through Covid better than most, we are more resilient to Putin than the rest of Europe, and now you will see Labour put us back 5 years.


Yes, yes, we know, but Cons said they'd fix the economy in 2010, the country faced a double dip recession and continual problems so they fixed nothing.

They called Cameron the 'heir to Blair' for a reason and every Tory politician since him has been as bad and sometimes even worse than Nu Labour and the Bliar Witch Project. This New New Labour government are therefore just as bad as the Tories, there's no real difference between them at this point
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Borg Refinery

Quote from: Streetwalker on September 06, 2024, 09:25:26 PM
He is in Clacton spoons tonight mingling with anyone who has got anything to say . Not only face to face but a beer as well Union Flag

Who needs an office when you can hold court in pub ?
That's something I will actually give him credit for, it appears he is quite personable with those who want to talk to him and discuss things with him in the pub and I've heard similar tales before
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Streetwalker

Quote from: papasmurf on September 03, 2024, 07:46:42 PM
Being able to access my current MP and when he was the MP in the past was very useful. Face to face meetings often with other people present who wanted to discuss a similar subject was very useful and productive. (What are Farage's constituents going to do when he buggers off to America for several weeks to support his mate Donald.)
He is in Clacton spoons tonight mingling with anyone who has got anything to say . Not only face to face but a beer as well Union Flag

Who needs an office when you can hold court in pub ?

Unlucky4Sum

Quote from: Nick on September 06, 2024, 02:00:12 PM
Show me where Brexit hit our economy and where you can prove indisputably that Covid wasn't involved.
See above where our growth over the span of 2019 to now is 6th out of 7 in the G7 all of which had similar Covid

And then there's the OBR assessment that it's hurt our economy by ~5%

We were booming and then that referendum

Nick

Quote from: Unlucky4Sum on September 06, 2024, 01:47:45 PM
I'm so sorry to see you don't realise we are well past the first 3 months of the year, that you don't understand that blips are irrelevant and that we've not been the fastest in either the last year or since Brexit.

Your Farage and his fellow travellers hurt our economy, deal with it
Show me where Brexit hit our economy and where you can prove indisputably that Covid wasn't involved. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Unlucky4Sum

I'm so sorry to see you don't realise we are well past the first 3 months of the year, that you don't understand that blips are irrelevant and that we've not been the fastest in either the last year or since Brexit.

Your Farage and his fellow travellers hurt our economy, deal with it 

Nick

Quote from: Unlucky4Sum on September 06, 2024, 12:20:18 PM
And the position since Brexit is even worse, we're 6th out of 7


Are you Smurf in disguise? You're now comparing todays economy with 2019, to show growth you look at the previous figure and your previous chart is before the revised figures. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6p2r9xzde4o#:~:text=Due%20to%20the%20upward%20revision,three%20months%20of%20this%20year.

Due to the upward revision, the UK was the fastest growing economy in the G7 group of countries with advanced economies in the first three months of this year.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Unlucky4Sum

And the position since Brexit is even worse, we're 6th out of 7