yoo-kay: Worst Recession, Death Toll in Europe, Dev'd Nations,

Started by Dynamis, August 26, 2020, 11:09:03 PM

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Sheepy

Quote from: Dynamis on August 27, 2020, 08:20:32 AM
Quote from: Sheepy on August 27, 2020, 07:28:32 AM
Its no use trying to appeal to my better nature, if you put on the table the red lines the EU were told were red lines there will be no deal, I don't care how desperate you are to defeat us populists. Throw your dummies out of the pram all you like.

What better nature? ;)

I simply put the truth on the table for you, I'm not telling you what to think or trying to manipulate you or something.

You should come to your own conclusions. I concluded for example that Jerelmy Corbyn was utterly dishonest on Brexit (he was a Brexiter) and it rather ironically lost him (in part) the election.

I still voted for him because the EU is a total side-issue compared to day-to-day running of the country. I called for us to leave with or without a deal in less than 6 months after mid 2016. I said it was uncertainty that will damage the country.

That was correct.

Not interested in you changing your mind - IMHO the country choose Bojo and no deal and that's what we'll get, I accept that and accept that's what most want, so let's do it.

But don't ask me to say it won't hurt or to stay silent on the matter, the bleating will continue. ;)
Well that is good then, because you got the truth back right at ya.  8)
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

Borg Refinery

Quote from: Sheepy on August 27, 2020, 07:28:32 AM
Its no use trying to appeal to my better nature, if you put on the table the red lines the EU were told were red lines there will be no deal, I don't care how desperate you are to defeat us populists. Throw your dummies out of the pram all you like.

What better nature? ;)

I simply put the truth on the table for you, I'm not telling you what to think or trying to manipulate you or something.

You should come to your own conclusions. I concluded for example that Jerelmy Corbyn was utterly dishonest on Brexit (he was a Brexiter) and it rather ironically lost him (in part) the election.

I still voted for him because the EU is a total side-issue compared to day-to-day running of the country. I called for us to leave with or without a deal in less than 6 months after mid 2016. I said it was uncertainty that will damage the country.

That was correct.

Not interested in you changing your mind - IMHO the country choose Bojo and no deal and that's what we'll get, I accept that and accept that's what most want, so let's do it.

But don't ask me to say it won't hurt or to stay silent on the matter, the bleating will continue. ;)
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Sheepy

Its no use trying to appeal to my better nature, if you put on the table the red lines the EU were told were red lines there will be no deal, I don't care how desperate you are to defeat us populists. Throw your dummies out of the pram all you like.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

Borg Refinery

Quote from: Sheepy on August 26, 2020, 11:44:42 PM
Quote from: Dynamis on August 26, 2020, 11:40:41 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/MrMichaelSpicer/status/1298290590845734912
I take it you are a believer in all the propaganda then.

No I'm not a sheep. ;)

QuoteThe rest of us are still shaking hands.

Congrats. You've outdone Mr Shake Hands Man's record.

:)

QuoteNot much on the Germans being banned from marching against further neo liberal fascism.

Neo liberal fascism sounds about right for Boris also.

..Singapore on Thames?

If you don't believe me, try a well thought critique by Peter Hitchens, the only right wing journalist worth reading..

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7793551/amp/PETER-HITCHENS-Pity-Conservatives-main-Left-wing-party-country.html&ved=2ahUKEwjCzov4hbrrAhVNUhUIHZZ9Du0QFjABegQIBhAC&usg=AOvVaw1qpJj7C7oXIFxURBDbiI9h&ampcf=1&cshid=1598485222193

https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2019/12/boris-the-new-blair

Yes, Boris is a neoliberal with zero principle, I guess that must be hard to accept for some.

Try the Speccy; his old newspaper as well if it'll help:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spectator.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-is-the-real-heir-to-blair/amp

But you can regale us with tales of the Germans if you want.
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Borg Refinery

Quote from: Sheepy on August 26, 2020, 11:20:09 PM
Maybe the EU will send back all those truckloads of cash back we sent them over the decades for the privilege of them ripping the piss Dynamis, what do you reckon?  or maybe the printing presses will be on full on mode.

Here's a weighted assessment of both sides' claims;

https://www.open.ac.uk/ikd/sites/www.open.ac.uk.ikd/files/files/events/uk%2520and%2520eu.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjAgub-_7nrAhUBThUIHUUCBvAQFjAMegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0INlXssS-ggsAHUSeUp1Bl




Btw hasn't Bojo refused to do any Brexit modelling? Or is there something he's released?

So these are the only available models;

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/brexit/brexit-deal-potential-economic-impact/

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Sheepy

Quote from: Dynamis on August 26, 2020, 11:40:41 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/MrMichaelSpicer/status/1298290590845734912
I take it you are a believer in all the propaganda then. The rest of us are still shaking hands. Not much on the Germans being banned from marching against further neo liberal fascism.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!


Sheepy

Maybe the EU will send back all those truckloads of cash back we sent them over the decades for the privilege of them ripping the piss Dynamis, what do you reckon?  or maybe the printing presses will be on full on mode.
Just because I don't say anything, it doesn't mean I haven't noticed!

Borg Refinery

Take your pick of sources according to bias.

https://www.google.com/search?q=uk+worst+recession+europe&oq=uk+worst+recession+europe

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Financial Times ·
UK economy suffers worst slump in Europe in second quarter
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UK crashes into deepest recession of any major economy
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Britain's Economic Recession: Worse Than in Europe and North America

Evening Standard

UK's recession worst in Europe as Rishi Sunak warns 'hard times' have arrived

Forbes

The U.K. Is Officially In Recession After Suffering The Deepest Slump In Europe

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U.K.'s Worst Slump in Europe Raises Pressure to Sustain Rebound

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