Half competent, hateable leader - Dynamis

[johnofgwent]

Better a half competent one that an utterly inept fool.

[Borg Refinery]

Trickle down has always been bollocks.

so has the labour partys champagne socialism.

Revealed: Labour-led Glasgow council spent millions fighting women workers' equal pay claims

http://archive.is/3SLVI

Labour MP spent £500,000 of taxpayers' money running office from home staffed by wife

http://archive.is/z3I5f

Labour's Praetorian guard of old white men, the well-fed Tammany Hall regime of politicians and union officials who for generations used Glasgow as a cash cow for their own personal enrichment and status, this dispute is their dying curse – a spiteful knife-lunge at the party who usurped them, the voters who rejected them and their own members who turned on them.

It's true Lab have been bad in Scotland, the SNP are currently the model party for anyone with a brain (imho).

By the way, the thread makes it sound like I'm a hateable and half-competent leader.  Well.. half is something I guess.

[Thomas]

Fury at Easterhouse charity chief's 'obscene' £500,000 pay-off which could have paid for a new school

It was here that well-connected (LABOUR) council official Ronnie Saez was employed to alleviate poverty as chief executive of a regeneration agency.
And it was here yesterday that a chorus of outrage erupted at the revelation that Saez collected an "obscene" £500,000 pay-off of public money from the job.

Instead it was channelled to twice-married Saez, 52, who lives in a £450,000 villa in Paisley's plush Castlehead.

His payout – waved through by Labour councillors – was condemned as "misconduct" by the charity and "wholly unsatisfactory" by Scotland's charity watchdog this week in an unusually strongly-worded report.

The good old days for glasgow labour.........when they had the city on its knees , impoverishing the public while using the city as their own personal cash cow.

Glasgow has never had it so good since we kicked those barstewards out.

[Thomas]

Trickle down has always been bollocks.

so has the labour partys champagne socialism.

Revealed: Labour-led Glasgow council spent millions fighting women workers' equal pay claims

http://archive.is/3SLVI

Labour MP spent £500,000 of taxpayers' money running office from home staffed by wife

http://archive.is/z3I5f

Labour's Praetorian guard of old white men, the well-fed Tammany Hall regime of politicians and union officials who for generations used Glasgow as a cash cow for their own personal enrichment and status, this dispute is their dying curse – a spiteful knife-lunge at the party who usurped them, the voters who rejected them and their own members who turned on them.

[Thomas]

Yes you are probably right in what you say here. Selfless personally but we need to be more hardcore nationally. Javid? No! He flies both sides. Again far too image conscious for these times. He would be pulled in both directions depending who had his ear. I agree BJ has also been like this - more of late - but then I think his thinking processes are impaired on several fronts. New fatherhood and screaming nights. A partner with issues about her future and of course Covid. A man under extreme pressure on too many fronts, but then no-one could have told the future.

You're mistaken if you believe Boris Johnson's ability, reliability, trustworthiness and truthfulness have all diminished since his bout of Covid.
Max Hastings on his former Brussels correspondent:

There is room for debate about whether he is a scoundrel or mere rogue, but not much about his moral bankruptcy, rooted in a contempt for truth.
I have known Johnson since the 1980s, when I edited the Daily Telegraph and he was our flamboyant Brussels correspondent. I have argued for a decade that, while he is a brilliant entertainer who made a popular maître d' for London as its mayor, he is unfit for national office, because it seems he cares for no interest save his own fame and gratification.
He would not recognise the truth, whether about his private or political life, if confronted by it in an identity parade.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain

In the Guardian it may be, but it's all worth a read, and seems to chime with the opinions of many who've had dealings with Johnson...

i wonder why max dislikes boris johnson so much pat?

MAX HASTINGS: It's an unholy mess - but here's why I'm voting to stay in the EU

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3609899/MAX-HASTINGS-s-unholy-mess-s-m-voting-stay-EU.html


What next?

An article by demented ultra unionist alan cochrane on why nicola sturgeon is unfit for power?

[Thomas]

I had to laugh at the DMs article. - "when it's easier to get into the UK on a dinghy than via Heathrow, you know somethings wrong"

labour want into power , yet cant tell us how they would deal with people trying to get into the yookay on a dinghy.

"we cant tell you what we would do differently to johnson , but trust us with your vote and we will sort it out once in power"

[Thomas]

Council House building program,  it will probably need the nationalising of several industries and utilities if only for a limited time.
The negotiating of seamless trade with the EU whether anyone likes it or not.
Taking the NHS back in house with no subcontractors.
Total reform of the DWP.
No trade deal with America or anyone else that involves a Investor State Dispute Settlement clause.
Keep a long way away from the WTO.
That is just a few examples.

...well you hate all tories you tell us , so who is going to do all this? Labour?

Labour can't simply jeer at the Conservatives' weaknesses

Labour has still to confront a pervasive sense that too little changed for too many people when it held power. There are pockets of deprivation all over Britain – often a stone's throw from beautifully regenerated city centres – where life never seems to change much, come boom or come bust, and not just for those at the bottom of the pile.

The party noisily champions the "squeezed middle", but Labour is vaguer about exactly what squeezed them: wages have been flatlining for lower earners since 2003, long before the credit crunch or Osborne's austerity pay freezes.

Young couples were steadily priced out not just of buying a home but renting one – the average London rent now demands an income of £52,000 a year – not merely in the last two years, but over more than a decade of failure to prick the housing bubble. In Bradford, Labour's candidate complained that the "Tories didn't care" about rocketing unemployment – but joblessness actually began rising in the city in 2004.

And it's not enough just to jeer at posh Tories for being out of touch with ordinary folk, when many of them think that Labour had lost touch too. Life may be tougher under the Tories, but for some it was no picnic before – and where's the proof that it would get better if Labour won again? Where's the big plan for generating more and better jobs, or for helping people do the simple things – find a home, raise a family – now slipping out of reach?

Wise words from 8 years ago in the guardian , and labour still havent confronted their dismall failures when in power never mind learned lessons.

[Sheepy]

If we are to survive Covid19 and Brexit we need to up our game. We cannot do that without making changes at a really basic level. That starts in Whitehall and extends to the complacency on all sides of Westminster.

The problem is, "socialist" policies are needed, if only for the period of time needed to get the country out of the black hole it will dive into from next January. The Tories are doctrinally opposed to what is necessary.

Socialism doesn't work. I know you will never accept it but there are far too many people swinging the lead.
Helping out those who can't help them selves is all well and good but how do we sort the Wheat from the Chaff?

Not exactly true either, it has created safety nets for the old and the poor and given a good part of the worlds citizens free healthcare.  On the other hand it has also become top heavy and filled with bureaucrats.

[Sheepy]

Socialism makes everyone the poorer, whereas capitalism creates wealth which can then be cascaded down to the benefit of everyone.

Trickle down has always been bollocks. Instead wealth tends to be sucked out of the millions of struggling workers and enriching ever fewer people at the top.

True it must be one of the greatest failures of all time, while it allowed the Chinese to become a super power by using a bottom up economy, which was a tried and tested method, trickle down has created more poverty and job losses than just about anything else. As well as a huge debt mountain.

[papasmurf]

Socialism doesn't work. I know you will never accept it but there are far too many people swinging the lead.
Helping out those who can't help them selves is all well and good but how do we sort the Wheat from the Chaff?

Well  I am not a socialist BUT I made it clear socialist policies are needed to get the country out of the mire.
I did not state socialist policies are needed permanently.
One of the main problems we have currently is that capitalists seem to want socialist protection when things go tits up.
There employees should get socialist protection, but the capitalists are not capitalists because the necessary risk element is not there.
They  should face being sat in the pavement with a begging bowl and a mongrel dog on a string if they cock-up

[srb7677]

Socialism makes everyone the poorer, whereas capitalism creates wealth which can then be cascaded down to the benefit of everyone.

Trickle down has always been bollocks. Instead wealth tends to be sucked out of the millions of struggling workers and enriching ever fewer people at the top.

[T00ts]

Socialism makes everyone the poorer, whereas capitalism creates wealth which can then be cascaded down to the benefit of everyone.

My thoughts exactly. Why does anyone think that only socialists care? I have always believed that the best philanthropists have been capitalists. I just don't get socialism at all.

[Barry]

Socialism makes everyone the poorer, whereas capitalism creates wealth which can then be cascaded down to the benefit of everyone.

[T00ts]

The genuine needy, disabled, infirm and elderly.

Oh go on then, I will take the bait, how do we help those people then,  only with socialism?

Why? Is Socialism the only way? Is that what you are saying>

[Sheepy]

The genuine needy, disabled, infirm and elderly.

Oh go on then, I will take the bait, how do we help those people then,  only with socialism?