Spain will host climate conference after Chilean deaths

[Borg Refinery]

Churchill no-one can sit on their arse and survive on benefits you are woefully out of touch.

Why the propaganda you just spouted persists quite frankly make me very angry..

For start due to cuts to welfare it is next to impossible to survive on benefits.

It is not only now very difficult to get benefits it is also difficult to keep getting them because of compliance regulations and bloody minded DWP/JobCentre Plus staff.

His post is very Tebbitt like "on yer bike" dross.

[papasmurf]

If you can find well paid work all well and good, but it means you may have to go where it is if not on your doorstep, here in the UK you can sit on your arse and survive on benefits paid for by those who do work.

Churchill no-one can sit on their arse and survive on benefits you are woefully out of touch.

Why the propaganda you just spouted persists quite frankly make me very angry..

For start due to cuts to welfare it is next to impossible to survive on benefits.

It is not only now very difficult to get benefits it is also difficult to keep getting them because of compliance regulations and bloody minded DWP/JobCentre Plus staff.

[Churchill]

If you can find well paid work all well and good, but it means you may have to go where it is if not on your doorstep, here in the UK you can sit on your arse and survive on benefits paid for by those who do work.



If you move to get work and still not earning enough as far as I am aware you may be entitled to some benefits, which helps you and the taxpayers.

[papasmurf]

If there is little or no work where you are you have to move to where it is, it will not come to you

But that requires work that pays enough to support the cost of living in that area.

[Churchill]

Switzerland may not have had much natural resources other than cultivating their land for agriculture they also made money by being paid mercenaries mainly for the Pope, it is thought that is how they managed to start the first known Bank the beginnings of the world renown Banking System



Due to their engineering skills they founded a textile industry which meant work for many women they made far more than watches and still do, due to their neutrality over many years they have not had to spend huge amounts of the money fighting modern day wars, it is a stable country but the cost of living is high.



People have always had to leave the land of their birth or the area they were born in to find work or escape persecution, I had to leave the North to find work, my wife is an economic migrant she had to leave her country to find work as did other members of her family, yes she has encountered some resentment and racial insults years ago but not often now.



Migration works for most you have no choice but to make it work, especially if you marry and have children and in a country with no safety net  such as a welfare system as here in the UK, many of our neighbours are economic migrants or children of economic migrants, some like me are from different parts of the UK.    



If there is little or no work where you are you have to move to where it is, it will not come to you

[Baron von Lotsov]

I agree it is very difficult to break out of poverty without making some very hard decisions leaving family behind even ones country to try and find work, that is why we have many thousands of economic migrants right across the world, trying to send money home to help those they left behind

The Swiss didn't have any natural resources in their country, so they made watches because they don't use much. They also managed to do it where they were. Either you take the racist view that those in Chile are dumber than the Swiss or you accept they aren't trying hard enough. Thinking the grass will be greener elsewhere is often an illusion. in many countries you are treated as a second class citizen if you are foreign. That means toilet cleaner.

[Baron von Lotsov]

That's a pretty crass thing to say BvL . People do not live in poverty by choice ,they are often born into it  are poorly educated if at all and even when given the opportunity to escape it find they can not afford to .

They believe is bullshit. It's why so many play the National Lottery. I believe it is ultimately due to insecurity, and that is to do with retarded mental development. You should read up on some psychology some day as it would explain so much that appears to be a mystery to the masses. I'm just giving my educated view on the matter, and I'm always open to improving it with knowledge, but that's my position currently. It's why the TV is so immature. It's done deliberately to create socialism, like socialism essentially is want of mummy to look after you. In normal mental development the mind runs a program where it seeks to become more and more independent of its parents. At a certain age you find children stop balling their eyes out and take a more mature hands-on approach to deal with life and its problems. If this psychological development is interfered with though you can see how it would pan out. It's why we have homosexuals and it is why we don't get heroes anymore and why Health and Safety treat us as children.



I do not know why I'm different, but I twigged this shit very early on in my life, like when I was around the age of 7-9 years old I could see vaguely what they were playing at. I adjusted my life to cope with it and have never fallen for it. I just don't see that in others, except for a very small minority. If you feel comfortable disagreeing with say a class of 30 people, like you could stand up and say why you disagree with them to their faces then it means you are like me. I don't think there are that many. Also children being brought up without the care of their mother and father seriously screws up mental development. Look at the divorce statistics and see for yourself. The eerie thing is we are mostly being controlled by people in graves. These tricks were developed a long time ago. They are copied wholesale.

[Churchill]

I agree it is very difficult to break out of poverty without making some very hard decisions leaving family behind even ones country to try and find work, that is why we have many thousands of economic migrants right across the world, trying to send money home to help those they left behind

[Streetwalker]

 Dumb people eh. I'd never have put up with it in the fist place, and indeed I didn't, even when it was introduced into my education. What i have a  problem with is when people just follow those who lead them to the path of destruction. That's the root cause, and it was like that with the Maoists as well, but many more died.

That's a pretty crass thing to say BvL . People do not live in poverty by choice ,they are often born into it  are poorly educated if at all and even when given the opportunity to escape it find they can not afford to .

[Baron von Lotsov]

Are you for real ?



Just go Google a few newspapers, and not just here.



You will in pretty short order find the current disorder kicked off over a 3% hike in subway fares,but against a background of 1% of the people earning 33% of the GDP and the OECD declaring the place the most unequal on earth.



The three percent hike comes, says a mother of a 6 year old, on top of economic policy that forces her to endure a two hour commute and a 12hour day to pay the bills in a system unchanged from Maggie Thatcher's pal PINOCHET's time

I don't disagree with your view. This is what a socialist regimes are, 1% earning 33% of GDP and the rest in squalor. Now they will be even poorer. Dumb people eh. I'd never have put up with it in the fist place, and indeed I didn't, even when it was introduced into my education. What i have a  problem with is when people just follow those who lead them to the path of destruction. That's the root cause, and it was like that with the Maoists as well, but many more died.

[johnofgwent]

No, I mean it's bloody stupid of them to burn down what they use, especially when they claim it is too expensive. Think if you were the government. You'd have to rebuild it and who do you suppose will pay for it?



They sound like socialists. The country has been ruled by them in the past, and they screwed up then. It's true i don't have much of an idea about them, but i know this much.

Are you for real ?



Just go Google a few newspapers, and not just here.



You will in pretty short order find the current disorder kicked off over a 3% hike in subway fares,but against a background of 1% of the people earning 33% of the GDP and the OECD declaring the place the most unequal on earth.



The three percent hike comes, says a mother of a 6 year old, on top of economic policy that forces her to endure a two hour commute and a 12hour day to pay the bills in a system unchanged from Maggie Thatcher's pal PINOCHET's time

[Baron von Lotsov]

You mean you found out what someone who you have no idea about the politics of wants you to think is the case regarding ....

No, I mean it's bloody stupid of them to burn down what they use, especially when they claim it is too expensive. Think if you were the government. You'd have to rebuild it and who do you suppose will pay for it?



They sound like socialists. The country has been ruled by them in the past, and they screwed up then. It's true i don't have much of an idea about them, but i know this much.

[johnofgwent]

I found out what the protests were about (No thanks to Barry's BBC)

Wiki states:

"The 2019 Chilean protests are ongoing civil protests throughout Chile in response to a raise in the Santiago Metro's subway fare,"



&



"The protests began in Chile's capital, Santiago, as a coordinated fare evasion campaign by secondary school students which led to spontaneous takeovers of the city's main train stations and open confrontations with the Chilean Police. On the 18th of October, the situation escalated as organized bands of protesters rose in rebellion across the city, seizing many stations of the Santiago Metro network (part of Red) and disabling them with extensive infrastructure damage, ultimately disabling the network in its entirety. In total, 81 stations have been damaged, with 17 burned down"



They don't seem to have any metro now, so the protests have moved the situation on from expensive metro to burnt down metro.

You mean you found out what someone who you have no idea about the politics of wants you to think is the case regarding ....

[Churchill]

::  and the little goodie bags in First Class

[johnofgwent]

Why do they have to travel at all? Couldn't they conference call?

What, and miss out on the air miles, good god....