Australian Fires

[cromwell]

71 died in 1939

60 died in 1926

62 in Tasmania 1967

75 died in 1983.



As you say...

And the last decade has been the hottest since 1850.........how longs the earth been around?



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51111176">//https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51111176

[Barry]

There was piece on the beeb t'other day iirc saying there's never been fires like this in Australias history,and I thought yeah but it's only got a history of just over 200 years,not demeaning the aborigines who I reckon have a far better understanding of the place than the new arrivals,and then there's a post by jog on the science thread looking at much longer periods.



I don't doubt there are things happening but its the bollocks that this has never happened before.

71 died in 1939

60 died in 1926

62 in Tasmania 1967

75 died in 1983.



As you say...

[cromwell]

There was piece on the beeb t'other day iirc saying there's never been fires like this in Australias history,and I thought yeah but it's only got a history of just over 200 years,not demeaning the aborigines who I reckon have a far better understanding of the place than the new arrivals,and then there's a post by jog on the science thread looking at much longer periods.



I don't doubt there are things happening but its the bollocks that this has never happened before.

[Streetwalker]

Interesting Lancet article on the subject of arson and arsonists:-



More at link:-



https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366%2819%2930341-4/fulltext">https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanp ... 4/fulltext">https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(19)30341-4/fulltext



Arson assessment and treatment: the need for an evidence-based approach



Nichola Tyler



Theresa A Gannon

Katie Sambrooks

Published:October, 2019DOI:https://doi.org/10.1016/S2215-0366%2819%2930341-4">https://doi.org/10.1016/S2215-0366(19)30341-4



In 2018, across England and Wales alone, 770 individuals were sentenced for arson, of which 47% received a custodial sentence or hospital order.1 Despite the number of individuals convicted of arson offences each year, this criminal behaviour remains poorly understood. For example, a paucity of evidence exists regarding risk factors for reoffending. Consequently, few specialist assessment and intervention frameworks are available to assess and treat this highly destructive behaviour.

As I said , Drongos

[papasmurf]

Our species is definitely regressing . Just makes me wonder what the exact thought process is that ends up with  :idea:  I'll light another  fire



Drongo's

Interesting Lancet article on the subject of arson and arsonists:-



More at link:-



https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366%2819%2930341-4/fulltext">https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanp ... 4/fulltext">https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(19)30341-4/fulltext



Arson assessment and treatment: the need for an evidence-based approach



Nichola Tyler



Theresa A Gannon

Katie Sambrooks

Published:October, 2019DOI:https://doi.org/10.1016/S2215-0366%2819%2930341-4">https://doi.org/10.1016/S2215-0366(19)30341-4



In 2018, across England and Wales alone, 770 individuals were sentenced for arson, of which 47% received a custodial sentence or hospital order.1 Despite the number of individuals convicted of arson offences each year, this criminal behaviour remains poorly understood. For example, a paucity of evidence exists regarding risk factors for reoffending. Consequently, few specialist assessment and intervention frameworks are available to assess and treat this highly destructive behaviour.

[Streetwalker]

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/10/795218092/australias-wildfires-spark-disinformation-battle-as-they-take-a-tragic-toll?t=1578915661653">//https://www.npr.org/2020/01/10/795218092/australias-wildfires-spark-disinformation-battle-as-they-take-a-tragic-toll?t=1578915661653

Although there has been some disinformation, this seems to be true:

The NSW police said that while 24 people were charged with deliberately lighting bushfires, 53 faced legal actions — which include a warning — for not complying with a statewide ban on fires. And the overall number also includes 47 people who were accused of not properly disposing of lit cigarettes or matches.



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Our species is definitely regressing . Just makes me wonder what the exact thought process is that ends up with  :idea:  I'll light another  fire



Drongo's

[Barry]

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/10/795218092/australias-wildfires-spark-disinformation-battle-as-they-take-a-tragic-toll?t=1578915661653">//https://www.npr.org/2020/01/10/795218092/australias-wildfires-spark-disinformation-battle-as-they-take-a-tragic-toll?t=1578915661653

Although there has been some disinformation, this seems to be true:

The NSW police said that while 24 people were charged with deliberately lighting bushfires, 53 faced legal actions — which include a warning — for not complying with a statewide ban on fires. And the overall number also includes 47 people who were accused of not properly disposing of lit cigarettes or matches.



 :shock:

[Streetwalker]

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/09/australia/mallacoota-beer-intl-hnk-scli/index.html">https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/09/aust ... index.html">https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/09/australia/mallacoota-beer-intl-hnk-scli/index.html



So back to the bushfires the Australian Royal Navy have become the toast of the town and delivered 800 gallons of beer to the fire ravaged town of Mallacoota . Good to see they still have their priorities right .



The story caught my eye not just because of the beer run but the name of the town . As a kid I studied the voyages of Captain Cook ,Mallacoota or rather its costal rocks  Hicks Point was where Cook first sighted land .  Its a small world .



Cheers !

[Streetwalker]

I am seriously considering donating my body to medical science for exactly that reason

 :hattip

[papasmurf]

Some people will do anything to get out of paying for their own funeral  

I am seriously considering donating my body to medical science for exactly that reason

[Streetwalker]

Being a be prepared sort of person, I have a fully charged screwdriver to hand, plus a fully charged power pack to recharge other devices.

(Mind you with the number of targets locally that would be hit with a nuclear attack, it would be better just to stand outside and get vapourised.

Some people will do anything to get out of paying for their own funeral  

[papasmurf]

However looking back the was it 2 minute warning we were supposed to be getting probably wasn't enough to find the screwdriver let alone take half a dozen doors off the hinges . ::  .I guess we would have been toast ,well done toast at that .

Being a be prepared sort of person, I have a fully charged screwdriver to hand, plus a fully charged power pack to recharge other devices.

(Mind you with the number of targets locally that would be hit with a nuclear attack, it would be better just to stand outside and get vapourised.

[cromwell]

I don't think they would understand it . It wasn't that we were going to survive but that we would be dammed if we were not going to try . And besides making camps in the house as we did practice runs was fun .



However looking back the was it 2 minute warning we were supposed to be getting probably wasn't enough to find the screwdriver let alone take half a dozen doors off the hinges . ::  .I guess we would have been toast ,well done toast at that .

2 Minutes,now what can be done in 2 minutes?........oh yea    ::  ::

[Streetwalker]

Brilliant!!

I wonder what some of today's lot would make of that?

I don't think they would understand it . It wasn't that we were going to survive but that we would be dammed if we were not going to try . And besides making camps in the house as we did practice runs was fun .



However looking back the was it 2 minute warning we were supposed to be getting probably wasn't enough to find the screwdriver let alone take half a dozen doors off the hinges . ::  .I guess we would have been toast ,well done toast at that .

[cromwell]

Look what I found Cromwell:

https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/110193.pdf?v=c77f06e782d33a2ec8bf00d7c597ea10">//https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/110193.pdf?v=c77f06e782d33a2ec8bf00d7c597ea10



Just for those whipper snappers who have not a clue of what we speak. :shock:

Brilliant!!

I wonder what some of today's lot would make of that?