General Strike?

[Nick]

Many airport and airline employees have a genuine grievance — their pay was docked by 20% when traffic was curtailed due to covid and work was lighter — but now many are back full-time and their pay's not been returned to normal...

Have you any links to this phenomenon?

[patman post]

Did I just hear that BA crews are coming out over the summer?

Many airport and airline employees have a genuine grievance — their pay was docked by 20% when traffic was curtailed due to covid and work was lighter — but now many are back full-time and their pay's not been returned to normal...

[Thomas]

 It has even been suggested that the Union Chiefs are doing Putin a favour. Is that so laughable?

aye , its extremely laughable. This doing putins handywork seems to be the tory fall back position to shut down debate and stop people disagreeing with them.

The idea anyone with an ounce of common sense is going to change their view beacuse some daft tory mp starts squealing about putin is hysterical. Scraping the bottom of the barrell like this shows the tories must be deep in trouble.

[srb7677]

Russia do have friends across the political spectrum, as the Tory party will tell you from their donations list, whilst the Labour party will tell you the same.

True, but I do not recognise the majority of Labour MPs as anything other than pretend left wingers who are in reality thatcherite establishmentarians, with a tinge of social liberalism. 

I wouldn't put it past the likes of George Galloway to take money from Putin, though. Though I have no knowledge of that having been the case. Of course, he is not Labour anymore, but is an egomaniac whose primary allegience is to himself. His latest vanity project is an attempt to ally populist left wing economics with muslim social conservatism. Which is entirely opportunistic because it looks to him like a Galloway sized niche he can fill in pursuance of his main interest - George Galloway.

[Nick]

Oh yes here it is.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10946075/Now-Heathrow-staff-strike-BA-staff-vote-walk-summer-holidays.html

So ground and booking in staff. Great! I guess now that the unions have seen rail men taking the lead they will all follow. Lemmings.

BA staff are one of, if not thee highest paid lot in the business, and BA's fall from grace is spectacular. I will not fly with them, they can't be contacted on the phone, they never answer emails, they are horrendous and I won't use them. As someone who does anywhere between 40 and 80 flights a year that must must be killing them, losing frequent fliers like me must impact the business so much, and I'm nowhere near the levels of some. A BA captain is on £120K+ Compared to an EasyJet pilot on £40K, more greed. Sack the lot for dereliction of duty and replace them with EasyJet staff, imagine if someone comes along and says they'll double your salary!!

[Barry]

I very much doubt it. Firstly, the unions are not "far" left. Secondly assuming that anyone on the left is a secret supporter of Putin betrays thinking stuck in a time warp. Russia has long since ceased to be any kind of socialist beacon to elements on the left. It is now much more akin to a fascist ultra-capitalist kleptocracy, and not something many on the left could support ideologically.

You have a point, but Russia do have friends across the political spectrum, as the Tory party will tell you from their donations list, whilst the Labour party will tell you the same. Although my point was about left political alignment, old friends from the past do seem to last a long time.

[srb7677]

Do you think that there is a possibility that the far left and union hard liners are being manipulated by Russian interests, at all?
I wonder if this sudden rush to strike is about the Ukraine. There's more  than one way to fight a war.

I very much doubt it. Firstly, the unions are not "far" left. Secondly assuming that anyone on the left is a secret supporter of Putin betrays thinking stuck in a time warp. Russia has long since ceased to be any kind of socialist beacon to elements on the left. It is now much more akin to a fascist ultra-capitalist kleptocracy, and not something many on the left could support ideologically.

[T00ts]

Do you think that there is a possibility that the far left and union hard liners are being manipulated by Russian interests, at all?
I wonder if this sudden rush to strike is about the Ukraine. There's more  than one way to fight a war.

Mmm I've seen this mooted elsewhere. It's a thought isn't it? The news of Mick Lynch is that he is a Putin supporter, is he also Marxist, Communist? No idea. The appearance to me is that the Labour buying Unions are as frustrated as the Labour back benches with Starmer's lack lustre performance and have seen the opportunity now while everyone is panicking about the mass of bad news, that this addition will bring the current Government and possibly Starmer down. 
It seems a bit of a coincidence while Putin pundits in Russia are apparently broadcasting that London is first on the list for bombing in the 3rd world war, that British citizens should be bringing the country as close to ruin as they can manage. I think it's probably pie in the sky, there are those who love a story and the more outlandish the better. What if they are? What will be will be - we are in different times. That world war will start somewhere and the battalions are slowly amassing.

[cromwell]

Did I just hear that BA crews are coming out over the summer?

Well I did hear a lot of gay people were crew but I thought they were already quite open about it.

[Barry]

As far as I have seen so far the talk is, bin men, teachers, barristers, doctors, rail, postmen and Spain's Easyjet crews are all jumping onto the Strike bandwagon. It has even been suggested that the Union Chiefs are doing Putin a favour. Is that so laughable? Perhaps, but I guess the Unions are simply sick of Starmer getting more splinters as he watches his MPs supporting the strike while he hides on a fence somewhere.

It seems that the war is between the media and the Unions while those elected hide somewhere.

Do you think that there is a possibility that the far left and union hard liners are being manipulated by Russian interests, at all?
I wonder if this sudden rush to strike is about the Ukraine. There's more  than one way to fight a war.

[Baff]

Did I just hear that BA crews are coming out over the summer?

No biggie.
It's always been an open secret.

[T00ts]

Oh yes here it is. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10946075/Now-Heathrow-staff-strike-BA-staff-vote-walk-summer-holidays.html

So ground and booking in staff. Great! I guess now that the unions have seen rail men taking the lead they will all follow. Lemmings.

[T00ts]

Did I just hear that BA crews are coming out over the summer?

[Nick]

I doubt if the rail strike will effect the popularity or otherwise of the Johnson government.

Here's why: potential Tory voters will be split be into those who think the current industrial unrest is a symptom of the declining state of "Johnson's Britain" and those who support the PM's opposition to the strikers.

I doubt if there will be a general strike because the unions with low-paid members don't have much time for those with high-paid members like the RMT.

People should start looking at the pay grades in the forces. Compared to Doctors, head teachers and the like it is a pittance. 

[Nick]

As far as I have seen so far the talk is, bin men, teachers, barristers, doctors, rail, postmen and Spain's Easyjet crews are all jumping onto the Strike bandwagon. It has even been suggested that the Union Chiefs are doing Putin a favour. Is that so laughable? Perhaps, but I guess the Unions are simply sick of Starmer getting more splinters as he watches his MPs supporting the strike while he hides on a fence somewhere.

It seems that the war is between the media and the Unions while those elected hide somewhere.

On the fence? He is the fence 😆