Al Fayed

[cromwell]

Nick debating and you are strangers.

Smurf you are entitled to an opinion so is everybody else,that's what a forum does.

Not agreeing with you does not negate an opinion 

[Nick]

Nick debating and you are strangers.

Another cop out cause you've been proved wrong. I explained how rich people travel but you can't grasp it, same as not knowing who you are posting to. 

[papasmurf]

Show some evidence then. And no, travelling to the U.S. is not time Trump is no where near as dangerous as doing a surgery with unknown people. Do you know why you never see rich famous people in airport departure lounges? Because there is a secret terminal entrance and escort service that puts them onto the plane in First Class before the nobodies get on. They are removed using the same method at the U.S. end a whisked through a private passport control service, into their limo and away without ever being seen by the plebs. Farage will do the same, straight into Trumps security protection. So no, it's not safer doing a surgery, but you would know once having a fictitious American Visa  

Nick debating and you are strangers.

[Nick]

There is plenty of evidence about Farage from his own gob for a start. He is worried about being knifed by a constituent but travels to America to see his mate Trump on a regular basis which is far more dangerous.

(On personal basis I would not get within 78metres of Trump, I would not want to be collateral damage.)

Show some evidence then. And no, travelling to the U.S. is not time Trump is no where near as dangerous as doing a surgery with unknown people. Do you know why you never see rich famous people in airport departure lounges? Because there is a secret terminal entrance and escort service that puts them onto the plane in First Class before the nobodies get on. They are removed using the same method at the U.S. end a whisked through a private passport control service, into their limo and away without ever being seen by the plebs. Farage will do the same, straight into Trumps security protection. So no, it's not safer doing a surgery, but you would know once having a fictitious American Visa   

[Barry]

It's all about money.

I watched the program last night and there was a woman, she was asked if she could vouch for the character of MAF and, because a Harrods solicitor was present she said that she could.
This was even though she had been assaulted by MAF on more than one occasion and knew about others.

Money was her motivation to lie. She could have lost her job and been sued, but she thought more of her job and position than the truth.

MAF used power, money and bribery to control everyone he could. Always follow the money.
He appears to have been the worst kind of creep. 

[papasmurf]

Not only waited until he's dead, but then another year. 

It has taken about a year to compile the evidence across many countries. (That is quick frankly.)

[Scott777]

Why do people wait till they're dead,if they had some complaint air it sooner.

Not only waited until he's dead, but then another year.  I've heard it's just the media trying to distract from the Huw Janus story.  (Sorry, I may have misspelled that, Huw Edwards may be the correct way to spell it).  😁

[patman post]

Why do people wait till they're dead,if they had some complaint air it sooner.

Do we know that complaints weren't made earlier?

I'm not suggesting your query isn't valid, but looking at what some recently vindicated whistle-blowers and victims have endured, we may have to wait sometime before the truth emerges.

Sad if the allegations are untrue, but at least Al Fayed won't personally suffer...

[papasmurf]

The evidence is mounting up that Fayed wasn't a very nice bloke ,was certainly a womaniser and stepped over the line on what most of us would perceive to be gentlemanly conduct . But criminal ?

Very criminal if you watched the BBC news conference this morning.  Threats, intimidation,  Non Disclosure Agreements.   Al Fayed allegedly used head of security John Macnamara to threaten women who made sex claims.

[Streetwalker]

Why do people wait until the super rich and well connected business man with a penchant for suing people has died before they accuse them?

In addition, historically those women wouldn't have had a hope. It's only in the last few years that the balance has shifted away from powerful men.

There have been plenty of rich and famous been convicted of sexual assault over the years . The balance in this case is the problem ,that being only one side being presented . 
The evidence is mounting up that Fayed wasn't a very nice bloke ,was certainly a womaniser and stepped over the line on what most of us would perceive to be gentlemanly conduct . But criminal ? 

[BeElBeeBub]

Why do people wait till they're dead,if they had some complaint air it sooner.

Why do people wait until the super rich and well connected business man with a penchant for suing people has died before they accuse them?

In addition, historically those women wouldn't have had a hope. It's only in the last few years that the balance has shifted away from powerful men. 

[papasmurf]

Says the worm that slates Farage on a daily basis without a shread of it

There is plenty of evidence about Farage from his own gob for a start. He is worried about being knifed by a constituent but travels to America to see his mate Trump on a regular basis which is far more dangerous.

(On personal basis I would not get within 78metres of Trump, I would not want to be collateral damage.)

[Streetwalker]

I am not interested in opinion that is not evidence based.

Says the worm that slates Farage on a daily basis without a shread of it 

[Streetwalker]

I am watching a conference on BBC TV at the moment about Al Fayed . Al Fayed maybe dead but the people who facilitated and threatened the girls/women to keep quiet are not. Some of the women have also kept documentary evidence. I am afraid your attitude is what has been the problem is all such historical cases.

Ive got no problem with those involved being brought to book ,I would encourage it if they had sound evidence . The problem with these historical cases though is that they can get it completely wrong ,often dealing with fantasists and liars . Its a minefield that has seen many an innocent man convicted ,even those who can speak in their own defence 

[papasmurf]

It's called an opinion, and SW is entitled to it, just as you are entitled to yours. There is no need for attitude.

Nick are you watching the conference about Al Fayed on BBC2? There very much IS need for my attitude.
I am not interested in opinion that is not evidence based.