So how brown will your baby be?Well it's free speech isn't it

[srb7677]

Good for you, Ken 

I like Sampanski but I wouldn't take bets on whose side he's on. And ok, I get you don't like the Royal family. Maybe like your namesake youd have them beheaded, eh?

It comes.down to free speech in the end, and whether you believe that two self centred money grubbers have *fled persecution" or simply fecked off to the US to become part of the Hollywood celeb circuit whilst hoping to keep their lucrative royal patronages.

I don't believe anything either of them say. That doesn't mean I think everything the Royal family say is gospel either. But as with everything now, the woke circus gets hold of it and out come all the moral clichés about racism and white supremacy etc. But each day that goes by this shit gets worse and worse. If you're happy that people can get sacked, "cancelled", become villains overnight, lose their jobs and livelihoods, just because they won't join in with the bullshit or have a different opinion, then carry on. You yourself have often commented on how the WW2 generation fought for freedom etc. Woke culture and political correctness is the antithesis of freedom Cromwell. You might not like what Piers Morgan for example said, but whats just happened shows you where free speech is going.

I expect incoming for this and another massive rant but it is hard not to credit you as a racist sometimes. You certainly react angrily to anyone else calling it out.

[DeppityDawg]

Well I think Abbott is a fool,not because she's black but because she's an idiot.

You don't like Meghan fair enough,but on a wider scale sampans link does throw up some interesting differences on how the two royal couples are treated,just because you and others dislike her for how you perceive her doesn't mean there aren't other agendas.

Good for you, Ken 

I like Sampanski but I wouldn't take bets on whose side he's on. And ok, I get you don't like the Royal family. Maybe like your namesake youd have them beheaded, eh?

It comes.down to free speech in the end, and whether you believe that two self centred money grubbers have *fled persecution" or simply fecked off to the US to become part of the Hollywood celeb circuit whilst hoping to keep their lucrative royal patronages.

I don't believe anything either of them say. That doesn't mean I think everything the Royal family say is gospel either. But as with everything now, the woke circus gets hold of it and out come all the moral clichés about racism and white supremacy etc. But each day that goes by this shit gets worse and worse. If you're happy that people can get sacked, "cancelled", become villains overnight, lose their jobs and livelihoods, just because they won't join in with the bullshit or have a different opinion, then carry on. You yourself have often commented on how the WW2 generation fought for freedom etc. Woke culture and political correctness is the antithesis of freedom Cromwell. You might not like what Piers Morgan for example said, but whats just happened shows you where free speech is going.

[cromwell]

Well, of course you are entitled to your opinion. My point was that the rest of us are increasingly not entitled to an opinion without some **** accusing us of some ism or other. Because no criticism can be made of (for example) Megan Markle without it being fecking "racism". I coundn;t give a flying feck what "race" she is, shes a greedy fecking attention seeker.

This is increasingly the case for all "victim groups" now. I can't stand Alan Carrs voice. It irritates the feck out of me. Someone said just that (on Farcebook or somewhere) the other day, and immediately out come the "you're homophobic" replies. FFs what? No, its because he's intensely irritating so I switch the tv over

So there it is. You aren't allowed to dislike/be critical of someone for whatever reason anymore if they just also happen to be gay, or black or a woman or a fecking garden gnome.

Well I think Abbott is a fool,not because she's black but because she's an idiot.

You don't like Meghan fair enough,but on a wider scale sampans link does throw up some interesting differences on how the two royal couples are treated,just because you and others dislike her for how you perceive her doesn't mean there aren't other agendas.

[DeppityDawg]

I think she's far from anyones fool and let's face it there are a fair number of fools in the royal family.
I was having this argument with my OH this morning but gave up,though I did so because I have to share a bed with her though not with you (I heard the thank god from here     

Well, of course you are entitled to your opinion. My point was that the rest of us are increasingly not entitled to an opinion without some **** accusing us of some ism or other. Because no criticism can be made of (for example) Megan Markle without it being fecking "racism". I coundn;t give a flying feck what "race" she is, shes a greedy fecking attention seeker.

This is increasingly the case for all "victim groups" now. I can't stand Alan Carrs voice. It irritates the feck out of me. Someone said just that (on Farcebook or somewhere) the other day, and immediately out come the "you're homophobic" replies. FFs what? No, its because he's intensely irritating so I switch the tv over

So there it is. You aren't allowed to dislike/be critical of someone for whatever reason anymore if they just also happen to be gay, or black or a woman or a fecking garden gnome.

[Streetwalker]

They missed the obvious suspect cromwell ,

George

[cromwell]

https://youtu.be/OK0o7X0Hsuw

[cromwell]

I detest Megan Markle because she is a vacuous, victim playing attention seeker, and thats the same for many others too.

Well donning my handwringing liberal super hero outfit and Ken Clarke mask  I disagree,I reckon she's far from vacuous.

She could've been and should've been an asset especially with the commonwealth which is predominantly not white,having left the eu we need organisations like the commonwealth to go forth in the wider world.

I think she's far from anyones fool and let's face it there are a fair number of fools in the royal family.
I was having this argument with my OH this morning but gave up,though I did so because I have to share a bed with her though not with you (I heard the thank god from here  )

I can't really pretend to have much time of Meaghan or any other Royal, but there is definitely very double standards from sections of the UK media
I saw this really good post on Sino-Defence and decided to post.

https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/breaking-world-news-iii-no-discussion.7090/post-677296

Excellent link 

[Sampanviking]

I cant really pretend to have much time of Meaghan or any other Royal, but there is definitely very double standards from sections of the UK media
I saw this really good post on Sino-Defence and decided to post.

https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/breaking-world-news-iii-no-discussion.7090/post-677296

[Sheepy]

Buckingham Palace finally broke its silence on Tuesday evening over Harry and Meghan's explosive claims, made in an interview with Oprah Winfrey, saying the issues raised would be taken "seriously" and dealt with "privately" by the royal family.

A short statement issued on behalf of the Queen read: "The whole family is saddened to learn the full extent of how challenging the last few years have been for Harry and Meghan.

"The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning. While some recollections may vary, they are taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately.

[srb7677]

Feck off Steve. I detest Megan Markle because she is a vacuous, victim playing attention seeker, and thats the same for many others too. Its got F*CK all to do with her being black or mixed race.

Feck off yourself. I never suggested that your apparent loathing of Meghan was motivated by racism. But your reasons are so you,

[srb7677]

I think that you are desperate for folk to patronise and when the last, ethnic, one legged transgender decides to join the Tory party you won't know what to do with yourself.

It is not patronising to have a distaste for racism, though I do quite like your sense of humour.

No doubt there are transgender Tory supporters out there. There is after all no accounting for taste. The Tory party is a more welcoming place these days...at least sometimes. A previous leader after all was once renowned for screwing a pig. 

[DeppityDawg]

You think disdainful commentary on the skin colour of a child isn't racist?

I said you'd miss the irony, and sure enough, it flies straight over your fecking head.

Here is what you said

Well we know it wasn't the queen or prince Philip, but as to who disdainfully said such a snobbish and racist thing we can only ever guess at the identity.

We don't "know" anything. They are claims, allegations, not facts. Unless concrete evidence is provided, they remain just that. We don't "know" what the Queen said or didn't say, or anyone else for that matter.

Seconds later, we get this...

Only the other day the Sun was at it, claiming that Meghan sought the interview with Oprah before she even got married, none of which is the least bit knowable.

So what are you suggesting then? We must take "poor Megan"s claims at face value -  we "know" there was racism. Yet the Suns claims (which are no more evidenced than the Snow Queens) are unknowable? For gods sake hypocrisy is the lefts new specialist subject

Feck off Steve. I detest Megan Markle because she is a vacuous, victim playing attention seeker, and thats the same for many others too. Its got F*CK all to do with her being black or mixed race. Tired of this shit where people can't be criticised without it being some kind of "ism" or another.

[Borchester]

You think disdainful commentary on the skin colour of a child isn't racist?

I think that you are desperate for folk to patronise and when the last, ethnic, one legged transgender decides to join the Tory party you won't know what to do with yourself.

[srb7677]

This is similar to that time when you accused me of being a racist isn't it?

You think disdainful commentary on the skin colour of a child isn't racist?

[B-4]

This is similar to that time when you accused me of being a racist isn't it?

Ah yes, but the Left will support anything and anyone that demonstrates hate toward this country.  Even IRA terrorist loving Biden and his psychotic associates in corporate fascist America.  Yesterday it was hate Trump, stop Trump, kill Trump etc etc, today its death to the RF from the usual conformist Left (corporate rent boys really) .

Still, at least we get to see why the working classes deserted Labour.  Not even the corrupt media, who dare not question the American Woke in case they lose out on advertising and money, can convince normal people to support that abomination.