Kyle Rittenhouse acquittal

[Streetwalker]

Well there's another trial coming to a conclusion where a black jogger was shot dead by three men making a citizens arrest because he was running,still as the defence stated he was armed with his fists.
You only have to look at the pictures in the link more people tooled up for trouble.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10230209/Prosecution-argues-Ahmaud-Arbery-defenseless-attacked-killed.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed_article_desktop_news

And as for holidays there I refer you to the Japanese student shot dead for knocking on a door and asking for directions.....the shooter was found not guilty and the pissed up Scotsmen who knocked on several doors asking for help to get a taxi the worst were it here was a loud voice telling them to eff off,shot dead there and again not guilty.


It's an asylum I tell you.

Lets hope the jury get it right in the case you highlight cromwell though armed demonstrators outside the courthouse isnt a good look however you view it 

As for holidays I'll take my chances if the best you can come up with is a 30 year old shooting  that didn't even involve a tourist and a pissed up Scotsman (I dont recall that case , its probably filed somewhere in my memory bank between pissed up Scotsman and pissed up Scotsman  )

[cromwell]

I've not read too much but from what I did read and reading others arguing the case, is this statement true?

"Two people tried to shoot him and another was about to. He shot them after they made their move to take him down."

From what I gathered, at least two, maybe all three as I thought I read it was someone else pointed a gun, were unarmed. One was armed with a skateboard and tried hitting him with it, apparently this person was trying to disarm him.

As I say, I don't really know, just that statement went against what I had previously read.

Hi Groo nice to see you and hear your thoughts too.

The first one he shot didn't have a gun,the second tried both barrels of his skate board but they misfired and the last drew a weapon because he saw him as an active shooter.

Anyway good ol' Kyle doesn't want to be a cop no more or a paramedic but he's settled on being a lawyer, I expect next week it might be a train driver or astronaut or is that astronut?

[Groo]

So let's come back to the point then. Two people tried to shoot him and another was about to. He shot them after they made their move to take him down.

I'm having a hard time seeing a problem there.

As to those who whinge he should not have been there, well, I recall the press in THIS country jumping up and down with delight when riot police charged down WHITE men who took to the streets to protect their homes near Tottenham from burning when black men rioted there, but quite literally glorified a bunch of Sikhs standing in THEIR road, wielding baseball bats and similar, as proud men defending their homes, businesses and place of worship from carnage when THEY took to the streets near Manchester as the violence threatened to spread.

Utter f**king hypocrisy.

I've not read too much but from what I did read and reading others arguing the case, is this statement true? 

"Two people tried to shoot him and another was about to. He shot them after they made their move to take him down."

From what I gathered, at least two, maybe all three as I thought I read it was someone else pointed a gun, were unarmed. One was armed with a skateboard and tried hitting him with it, apparently this person was trying to disarm him.

As I say, I don't really know, just that statement went against what I had previously read.

[cromwell]

Well there's another trial coming to a conclusion where a black jogger was shot dead by three men making a citizens arrest because he was running,still as the defence stated he was armed with his fists.
You only have to look at the pictures in the link more people tooled up for trouble.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10230209/Prosecution-argues-Ahmaud-Arbery-defenseless-attacked-killed.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed_article_desktop_news

And as for holidays there I refer you to the Japanese student shot dead for knocking on a door and asking for directions.....the shooter was found not guilty and the pissed up Scotsmen who knocked on several doors asking for help to get a taxi the worst were it here was a loud voice telling them to eff off,shot dead there and again not guilty.


It's an asylum I tell you.

[Barry]

Are you seriously defending someone under age knowingly being in possession of a firearm, pretending to be something he's not, lying that he was protecting a business when nobody asked him to.

OK, I accept he might be a fantasist.
I don't need to defend him at all, as he was found not guilty on all counts. He's innocent.

[Streetwalker]

So you'll have a link that this local force were taking the knee rather than doing their job?

Can you explain why there was a curfew in that town  and many protestors were arrested yet not one of this lot,it is said that some police not on their knees were openly supporting them.

If you are going to enforce a the law it should apply universally and not oh I like your politics you carry on  but not you I don't like yours you're arrested.

It was pretty much a given that the Police across America were taking the knee with protesters and even marching with them . Maybe they were trying to defuse the situation ,maybe they generally supported the demonstrators  as you say openly supporting them but whats for sure is that some people felt that to be protected they had to do it themselves .

Even at the weekend BLM proteters were openly carrying guns around the streets 
Armed BLM Protesters Join Socialist Rally for 'Justice' in Kenosha (breitbart.com)

[cromwell]

With that I totally agree cromwell , maybe when they get off their knees and do their job he and others like him will be able to put down the firearms

So you'll have a link that this local force were taking the knee rather than doing their job?

Can you explain why there was a curfew in that town  and many protestors were arrested yet not one of this lot,it is said that some police not on their knees were openly supporting them.

If you are going to enforce a the law it should apply universally and not oh I like your politics you carry on  but not you I don't like yours you're arrested.

[cromwell]

Not a moot point at all.
The police were not in control of the situation. He was entitled to use as much force as necessary to defend himself from attack.
The jury agreed.

Where do you get this "fantasist" idea from?

Where do I get the idea from?
right so he already knew it was illegal for him to buy a firearm ( good start if he wants to be a cop break the law)

In a filmed interview he says he's a certified emergency medical technician when presented with this in court admits he lied (no fantasy there then) and next the same.

He and his friend who procured the weapon stated they were there protecting a car dealership,in court the owners of that dealership testified that they had asked neither him nor anyone else to do that.

He was cleared of ownership of an illegal firearm(i.e. under the age of 18 ) on a technicality

The first person he shot threw a bag at him....wow that deserves death....after he killed him some others including the paramedic (ex or not at least he didn't fantasise about that) an ex marine and others who shockingly I know perceived him to be a threat.....how awful of them tried to disarm him.

I mean how terrible that one man he shot and killed tried to hit him with a skateboard,how dare he having just seen this pillock kill someone have the audacity to be armed with a skateboard......he should've tried harder and been armed with a rifle.

Are you seriously defending someone under age knowingly being in possession of a firearm,pretending to be something he's not, lying that he was protecting a business when nobody asked him to.


The police might occasionally lose control of a situation,it's not the job of some under age tosser to be in a place he had no right to be looking to show how great he is.......a vigilante,fantasist and murderer in my opinion.

[Borchester]

Whether it's a defence or not is a moot point,he is not a police officer and imo it's down to the police to enforce the law not some 17 year old fantasist.

It was a point accepted by the jury, although the US president said that he was angry with the result. Then again, Dead Joe currently has a disapproval rating of of 9.5%, which is a bit unfair when you consider that the poor old bugger hasn't done much other than nap in the Oval Office and leak embalming fluid.

Lucky the guys killed were white. If they had been black the rent a mobs would have been out on the streets trying to find out parts of the city they hadn't burned during the martyrdom of St Floyd

[Barry]

Whether it's a defence or not is a moot point, he is not a police officer and imo it's down to the police to enforce the law not some 17 year old fantasist.

Not a moot point at all.
The police were not in control of the situation. He was entitled to use as much force as necessary to defend himself from attack.
The jury agreed.

Where do you get this "fantasist" idea from?

[Streetwalker]

Whether it's a defence or not is a moot point,he is not a police officer and imo it's down to the police to enforce the law not some 17 year old fantasist.

With that I totally agree cromwell , maybe when they get off their knees and do their job he and others like him will be able to put down the firearms

[cromwell]

He shot those people defending himself. That is a legal defence in law, quite rightly. The jury accepted that which is why he's as free as a bird.
In fact, he'll probably join the police now, which is what he aspired to do.

There's no race issue here. As Cromwell pointed out, that headline about BLM protesters was malicious, as it implied that those shot were black.

Joseph Rosenbaum:Anthony Huber:
Gaige Grosskreutz:

Ex paramedic.

Whether it's a defence or not is a moot point,he is not a police officer and imo it's down to the police to enforce the law not some 17 year old fantasist.

[johnofgwent]

He shot those people defending himself. That is a legal defence in law, quite rightly. The jury accepted that which is why he's as free as a bird.
In fact, he'll probably join the police now, which is what he aspired to do.

There's no race issue here. As Cromwell pointed out, that headline about BLM protesters was malicious, as it implied that those shot were black.

Joseph Rosenbaum:Anthony Huber:
Gaige Grosskreutz:

Ex paramedic.

The "headline" I found didn't "imply" the people shot were black, it openly and wrongly stated they were black. The online post to the article was eventually changed but the article wasn't. 


And nobody cares.

[Barry]

Warning graphic content

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqLgEGCZ4Ow

[Barry]

He shot those people defending himself. That is a legal defence in law, quite rightly. The jury accepted that which is why he's as free as a bird.
In fact, he'll probably join the police now, which is what he aspired to do.

There's no race issue here. As Cromwell pointed out, that headline about BLM protesters was malicious, as it implied that those shot were black.

Joseph Rosenbaum:

Rosenbaum was raised in Texas and Arizona, according to The Washington Post. The paper reported that Rosenbaum said he was molested by a stepfather and had spent most of his adult life in prison starting at age 18 for sexual conduct with five preteen boys.

His mother was sent to prison when he was 13 and Rosenbaum began using heroin and methamphetamine at a group home where he was sent, the Post reported.

Swart had pressed charges against Rosenbaum in July 2020 after a fight in which he assaulted her, the paper reported. But she was open to reconciling, telling the Post that he had told her: "I want to fix things. ... I want to get myself right."

Anthony Huber:

Huber had spent time in prison twice, first for violating probation after strangling his brother and again for kicking his sister, the Post reported.

Gaige Grosskreutz:

Grosskreutz said he was not intentionally pointing his weapon at Rittenhouse, but during cross-examination agreed that it was pointed at Rittenhouse at the moment he was shot.

Rittenhouse shot Grosskreutz in the arm. Grosskreutz said he lost 90% of his right bicep.

Grosskreutz became a paramedic after high school, but the profession left him burnt out, according to the Post. [highlight]He then switched paths,[/highlight] majoring in outdoor education at Northland College. He got involved in the protests that summer after an internship fell through, joining forces with an activist group called the People's Revolution and helping out with medical care at protests.

Ex paramedic.