Putin threatens UK

Started by cromwell, April 28, 2022, 12:07:10 AM

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Scott777

Quote from: Nick on May 15, 2022, 08:20:48 PM
But never any evidence.

Just proved in the other thread that your BBC article is based on lies.  Suck it up.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Nick

Quote from: cromwell on May 15, 2022, 05:01:26 PM
Which really is an odd comment,Russia is capable of arming itself,which is still no answer why you point to Nazis in Ukraine but fail to acknowledge they exist in Russia right up to the Kremlin.
But never any evidence. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

cromwell

Quote from: Scott777 on May 15, 2022, 08:02:57 PM
Fair enough, I'll spell it out.  We are funding and arming the Ukraine government, and so it's important to know what happens to the money and arms, whether it goes to Nazis and corrupt politicians.  We don't fund and arm Russia, and so I don't need to point out if Nazis are getting it.  More to the point, if there are Nazis and corrupt politicians in Ukraine AND in Russia, then that's an even better reason not to arm and fund either of them.
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Scott777

Quote from: cromwell on May 15, 2022, 05:01:26 PM
Which really is an odd comment,Russia is capable of arming itself,which is still no answer why you point to Nazis in Ukraine but fail to acknowledge they exist in Russia right up to the Kremlin.

Fair enough, I'll spell it out.  We are funding and arming the Ukraine government, and so it's important to know what happens to the money and arms, whether it goes to Nazis and corrupt politicians.  We don't fund and arm Russia, and so I don't need to point out if Nazis are getting it.  More to the point, if there are Nazis and corrupt politicians in Ukraine AND in Russia, then that's an even better reason not to arm and fund either of them.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

cromwell

Quote from: Scott777 on May 15, 2022, 04:26:29 PM
It's an odd comment, because I am equally against funding and arming Russia.
Which really is an odd comment,Russia is capable of arming itself,which is still no answer why you point to Nazis in Ukraine but fail to acknowledge they exist in Russia right up to the Kremlin.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

Sampanviking

Quote from: Scott777 on May 15, 2022, 04:38:55 PM
Didn't you know, John founded NATO and invented all their equipment.  He was born to do the job.  😁
How he found the time what with his responsibilities performing Brain Surgery and Flying Concorde, I will never know!

Scott777

Quote from: Sampanviking on May 15, 2022, 04:10:08 PM
Don't worry John, as part of the UK's commitment to the defence of NATO and its friends, I have nominated you to be put on the front line of the Russo/Finnish border so you can deliver it in person.

Didn't you know, John founded NATO and invented all their equipment.  He was born to do the job.  😁
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Scott777

Quote from: Nick on May 15, 2022, 02:21:38 PM
You've still not posted one bit of EVIDENCE to show the Ukraine to be corrupt and dangerous.
As for Andriy Biletsky, I'm supposed to follow the words of a far right white supremacist? You should be certified.

Oh, ok Nick, you win that argument because I haven't provided enough evidence, and you can't be bothered to look it up.  In that case, carry on funding and arming them, and hope for the best that the Nazis have all gone now, and we don't create a big Nazi problem.  Maybe we can also gather up the remaining members of ISIS, give them some training and weapons, and they can join the fight against the bad guy.  As long as they promise not to behead any of the good guys.  😉
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Scott777

Quote from: cromwell on May 15, 2022, 12:01:54 PM
Yeah Scott funny how if shown a picture of. Putin henchman man with Nazi tattoos or a officer of Russian backed forces being presented with a medal for killing Nazis sporting nazi emblems on his uniform you ignore them.

It's an odd comment, because I am equally against funding and arming Russia.
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Sampanviking

Quote from: johnofgwent on May 15, 2022, 09:38:55 AM
I understand he's threatening Finland now.

Fair enough.

Supplies of Ricin are coming along nicely at Portion Down I hear
Don't worry John, as part of the UK's commitment to the defence of NATO and its friends, I have nominated you to be put on the front line of the Russo/Finnish border so you can deliver it in person.

Nick

Quote from: Scott777 on May 15, 2022, 10:42:10 AM
Try to avoid the strawmen.  Funding a corrupt and dangerous government is not the only way to oppose Putin.  Here is an example of who YOU seem to think should be funded and weaponised. Yeah, sure, that will solve the problem:  🤣

'Azov militia founder Andriy Biletsky, a member of Ukraine's parliament from 2014-19 has said: "Our nation's historic mission at this critical juncture is to lead the final march of the white race twrd its survival... march against sub-humans who are led by the Semite race.'

Do you remember that German guy with the little moustache who called the Russians sub-human?
You've still not posted one bit of EVIDENCE to show the Ukraine to be corrupt and dangerous. 
As for Andriy Biletsky, I'm supposed to follow the words of a far right white supremacist? You should be certified. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

cromwell

Quote from: Scott777 on May 15, 2022, 10:52:26 AM
A bit more about Andriy Biletsky, just for you, Nick, since you might like to make friends:

"The co-founder of the organization, Andriy Biletsky states that Social-Nationalism is based on three pillars: Racism, Socialism and Great Power.  He states that the ideology stands in a strong opposition to any form of liberalism or democracy, that by "socialism" it means a third position in economics, authoritative power."

Funny how similar Social-Nationalism sounds to National Socialism, isn't it?
Yeah Scott funny how if shown a picture of. Putin henchman man with Nazi tattoos or a officer of Russian backed forces being presented with a medal for killing Nazis sporting nazi emblems on his uniform you ignore them.
Energy....secure and affordable,not that hard is it?

Scott777

Quote from: Nick on May 14, 2022, 10:42:31 PM
Yeah! Who in their right mind opposes a dictator and his army raping women and shooting civilians in the back? I'm so glad you showed me the error of my ways 😳.

A bit more about Andriy Biletsky, just for you, Nick, since you might like to make friends:

"The co-founder of the organization, Andriy Biletsky states that Social-Nationalism is based on three pillars: Racism, Socialism and Great Power.  He states that the ideology stands in a strong opposition to any form of liberalism or democracy, that by "socialism" it means a third position in economics, authoritative power."

Funny how similar Social-Nationalism sounds to National Socialism, isn't it?
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

Scott777

Quote from: Nick on May 14, 2022, 10:42:31 PM
Yeah! Who in their right mind opposes a dictator and his army raping women and shooting civilians in the back? I'm so glad you showed me the error of my ways 😳.
Try to avoid the strawmen.  Funding a corrupt and dangerous government is not the only way to oppose Putin.  Here is an example of who YOU seem to think should be funded and weaponised. Yeah, sure, that will solve the problem:  🤣

'Azov militia founder Andriy Biletsky, a member of Ukraine's parliament from 2014-19 has said: "Our nation's historic mission at this critical juncture is to lead the final march of the white race twrd its survival... march against sub-humans who are led by the Semite race.'

Do you remember that German guy with the little moustache who called the Russians sub-human?
Those princes who have done great things have held good faith of little account, and have known how to craftily circumvent the intellect of men.  Niccolò Machiavelli.

johnofgwent

I understand he's threatening Finland now.

Fair enough. 

Supplies of Ricin are coming along nicely at Portion Down I hear
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