Stop RAF Scampton Being Turned into a Detention Camp for immigrants

Started by papasmurf, March 20, 2023, 07:28:01 PM

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Unlucky4Sum

Quote from: papasmurf on March 24, 2023, 12:49:00 PM
It is 800 acres and putting 1500 illegal immigrants on it, ( allegedly on the runway in portacabins) has stopped a £300 million development and cost  1000 badly needed local jobs. (I have already referenced that.) It will also close the runway. Keeping the runway in use was going to be part of the £300 million development.
All this has been detailed yet you choose to ignore it.
This has what has been stopped because of 1500 illegal immigrants :- Council appoints a development partner to deliver a prosperous and sustainable future for RAF Scampton | West Lindsey District Council (west-lindsey.gov.uk)


A landmark deal has been agreed which will see West Lindsey District Council purchase the former RAF Scampton site from the Ministry of Defence. And in a back-to-back arrangement the Council will transfer ownership to its new development partner.

The Council is delighted to announce that Scampton Holdings Limited has been selected as its Development Partner and under a Development Agreement they will regenerate the 800-acre historic site, following a successful public procurement exercise.
The deal, which will secure over £300 million of investment into the regeneration of the site will preserve, protect and enhance the site by providing aviation heritage, business, aerospace, space and aviation technology and education opportunities.
Since the closure of the base was announced in 2018, the Council has worked extensively with the Ministry of Defence, local stakeholders and the community to ensure the best possible outcome for the RAF Scampton site and its future positioning within the wider district and county economy.
At the heart of the proposal is the continued use of Scampton as an operational airfield, which will assist in enabling investment across four key business areas:

  • Commercial activity, aerospace and aviation;
  • Heritage;
  • Hospitality and tourism; and
  • Education and research.
A specific RAF Scampton policy was incorporated into the Central Lincolnshire Local Plan review to ensure the safeguarding and sustainable regeneration of the site post closure.  At the centre of this policy is the need to holistically plan for site-wide regeneration that delivers benefit to the existing community at RAF Scampton whilst providing an opportunity policy to secure regeneration and economic growth.
The Scampton Holdings Limited master plan is aligned with the emerging local plan policy. The final 'Main Modifications' consultation stage has now been completed with sign off of the revised Local Plan expected in early April.
Council Leader Councillor Owen Bierley said:Chairman of Scampton Holdings Limited, Peter Hewitt said:
So you've added in the land area the RAF bought long AFTER these supposed great historic events - like killing allied prisoners of war

You've also not looked at your own link which shows that proposed development would leave easily enough area for the runway AND this housing of 1500 migrants

Like so many of your posts, it's full of holes

papasmurf

Quote from: Unlucky4Sum on March 24, 2023, 12:22:38 PM
You guys do know that base is 370 acres and it's not that it's all going to be razed and given over to migrants don't you?

Nah, silly me, that'd be reality which would never do for some of youi
It is 800 acres and putting 1500 illegal immigrants on it, ( allegedly on the runway in portacabins) has stopped a £300 million development and cost  1000 badly needed local jobs. (I have already referenced that.) It will also close the runway. Keeping the runway in use was going to be part of the £300 million development.
All this has been detailed yet you choose to ignore it.
This has what has been stopped because of 1500 illegal immigrants :- Council appoints a development partner to deliver a prosperous and sustainable future for RAF Scampton | West Lindsey District Council (west-lindsey.gov.uk)


A landmark deal has been agreed which will see West Lindsey District Council purchase the former RAF Scampton site from the Ministry of Defence. And in a back-to-back arrangement the Council will transfer ownership to its new development partner.

The Council is delighted to announce that Scampton Holdings Limited has been selected as its Development Partner and under a Development Agreement they will regenerate the 800-acre historic site, following a successful public procurement exercise.
The deal, which will secure over £300 million of investment into the regeneration of the site will preserve, protect and enhance the site by providing aviation heritage, business, aerospace, space and aviation technology and education opportunities.
Since the closure of the base was announced in 2018, the Council has worked extensively with the Ministry of Defence, local stakeholders and the community to ensure the best possible outcome for the RAF Scampton site and its future positioning within the wider district and county economy.
At the heart of the proposal is the continued use of Scampton as an operational airfield, which will assist in enabling investment across four key business areas:

  • Commercial activity, aerospace and aviation;
  • Heritage;
  • Hospitality and tourism; and
  • Education and research.
A specific RAF Scampton policy was incorporated into the Central Lincolnshire Local Plan review to ensure the safeguarding and sustainable regeneration of the site post closure.  At the centre of this policy is the need to holistically plan for site-wide regeneration that delivers benefit to the existing community at RAF Scampton whilst providing an opportunity policy to secure regeneration and economic growth.
The Scampton Holdings Limited master plan is aligned with the emerging local plan policy. The final 'Main Modifications' consultation stage has now been completed with sign off of the revised Local Plan expected in early April. 
Council Leader Councillor Owen Bierley said:
Quote"As we approach the significant milestone of the 80th anniversary of Operation Chastise – the Dambusters Raid and will be remembering the important role that RAF Scampton played, the Council is proud to be taking this huge step to preserve and enhance the heritage of the site.
"The Council has always believed that whilst the site was deemed surplus to MOD requirements, it should play a key role in Levelling Up opportunities across West Lindsey and Lincolnshire.
"I am delighted that Scampton Holdings Limited share the vision for the site, which has been based on significant public and stakeholder engagement through the Local Plan process. Taking what are considered to be unique features, such as the world-renowned heritage, restricted airspace and strategic location, our new partner has been able to create a commercially viable and deliverable investment proposition and master plan.
"The Council has the resources in place to deliver the site purchase and Development Agreement and we look forward to working closely with Scampton Holdings Limited and the Ministry of Defence in the coming weeks to complete the deal."
Chairman of Scampton Holdings Limited, Peter Hewitt said:
Quote"Scampton Holdings Limited are passionate about unlocking the future potential of this key site. We bring to the table a wealth of experience and knowledge across the aerospace, defence, aviation, heritage and hospitality sectors, which through our collaborative and partnership approach to regenerating the site, will ultimately deliver 1000's of highly skilled new jobs in key growth sectors in the region."



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Unlucky4Sum

Quote from: Streetwalker on March 23, 2023, 07:40:19 PM
What swung it for me is that a certain black labrador's  grave is there ;)
You guys do know that base is 370 acres and it's not that it's all going to be razed and given over to migrants don't you?

Nah, silly me, that'd be reality which would never do for some of youi

papasmurf

Quote from: patman post on March 24, 2023, 11:08:16 AM
Where is it now, in Green Park too...?
No just moved a bit at RAF Scampton and the name of the dog removed. (More heritage vandalism.)
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patman post

Quote from: papasmurf on March 24, 2023, 07:50:06 AM
Quite, it was going to be destroyed, but there was such a furore it was moved instead.
Where is it now, in Green Park too...?
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papasmurf

Quote from: Streetwalker on March 23, 2023, 07:40:19 PM
What swung it for me is that a certain black labrador's  grave is there ;)
Quite, it was going to be destroyed, but there was such a furore it was moved instead.
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Streetwalker

Quote from: patman post on March 23, 2023, 07:08:23 PM
Two pages on here, and much of that anti your POV hardly shows a majority.
I bet the majority couldn't care less...
What swung it for me is that a certain black labrador's  grave is there ;)

patman post

Two pages on here, and much of that anti your POV hardly shows a majority.
I bet the majority couldn't care less...
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papasmurf

Quote from: Nick on March 23, 2023, 03:25:31 PM
You do not have the monopoly on thinking and understanding. Stop telling people they don't understand cause they do, they just have a different opinion to you.
Given the furore about RAF Scampton being used for illegal immigrants, and looking at all the comment about it, in the media/press and social media I am in the majority.
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Nick

Quote from: papasmurf on March 21, 2023, 12:51:03 PM
That you do not understand the historical importance of RAF Scampton is a disgrace, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. That Dambusters raid had the emergent property of the Germans moving a massive number of troops and materiel from the channel coast to guard dams and other important sites. That meant the D-Day landings had  lot less casualties than the "top brass," expected.
You do not have the monopoly on thinking and understanding. Stop telling people they don't understand cause they do, they just have a different opinion to you. 
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

papasmurf

Quote from: patman post on March 22, 2023, 06:20:43 PM
Isn't one in Green Park enough?


There are already others and have been for a long time, but they are not taking up land.
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papasmurf

Quote from: patman post on March 22, 2023, 06:20:43 PM
Isn't one in Green Park enough?

There is a pressing need for affordable homes in the UK, and building them on a patch of MOD land seems an excellent use for it.  
That is NOT what is happening at RAF Scampton.  The government plan to put 1500 illegal immigrants on it has stopped a £300 million development place that would have created 1000 badly needed local jobs in its track.
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patman post

Quote from: papasmurf on March 22, 2023, 10:40:00 AM
You really are out of touch.  Which one? (Seriously.) The latest one is in Green Park London. The unveiling ceremony which I watched was broadcast live on national TV. (Some poisonous person vandalised it in 2019.)
Isn't one in Green Park enough? 

There is a pressing need for affordable homes in the UK, and building them on a patch of MOD land seems an excellent use for it.   Meanwhile, asylum seekers could be housed there while the real need for the bars, hotels, restaurants, and shops could be put on hold and reevaluated...
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papasmurf

Quote from: Unlucky4Sum on March 22, 2023, 10:27:54 AM
Oh dear you find facts awkward do you?  Can't argue your corner properly so you make up childish false stories.

Bet you don't even know (without googling) where the Bomber Command memorial is
You really are out of touch.  Which one? (Seriously.) The latest one is in Green Park London. The unveiling ceremony which I watched was broadcast live on national TV. (Some poisonous person vandalised it in 2019.)
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Unlucky4Sum

Quote from: papasmurf on March 22, 2023, 10:04:50 AM
Thank you, looking around the internet and at various news items Unlucky4Sum seems be very much in a minority. He strikes me as the sort of person who would like the Cenotaph to be knocked down.
Oh dear you find facts awkward do you?   Can't argue your corner properly so you make up childish false stories.
 
Bet you don't even know (without googling) where the Bomber Command memorial is