Irish election

[patman post]

All well and good posty and I would agree that there  will be a move toward a united Ireland from the south and a good chunk of the north sometime in the future . That doesn't change the fact though that it is the North the will instigate a united Ireland referendum not a condition of any coalition government in the republic .

I don't disagree the the North will have to agree to any reunification referendum. But with a majority in the South now favouring  it, combined with the North's loyalists realising the Johnson government is ready to change their status, I would not be surprised to see full reunification within the next 20 years...

[Nalaar]

Oh Christ, another Mick with a chip on his shoulder. Still, I suppose they have to do something with all those spuds

I don't think this comment is meant to do anything other than insult, which is a shame, do better.

[Borchester]

Is this considered acceptable language on this forum? It certainly seems to of gone unchallenged.

Oh Christ, another Mick with a chip on his shoulder. Still, I suppose they have to do something with all those spuds

[Nalaar]

They Micks seem keen enough on a vote for reunification, but I doubt that it is going much of a look in once the Fenians get a sniff of real power and start having to deliver on their other promises.

Is this considered acceptable language on this forum? It certainly seems to of gone unchallenged.

[Borchester]

An Irish friend made an interesting point which for all I know might even be true. Until quite recently the social services in ROI were run by the Church which although it was in the habit of abusing orphans and unmarried mums, was at least cheap. Now the state is having to provide back up, any Sinn Fein coalition will demand wage increases and the probable lose of revenue from the business sector as the price of their support and one way and I reckon that the next Irish administration will huff and puff but will be too busy keeping the ship afloat to worry on about unification.

[cromwell]

All well and good posty and I would agree that there  will be a move toward a united Ireland from the south and a good chunk of the north sometime in the future . That doesn't change the fact though that it is the North the will instigate a united Ireland referendum not a condition of any coalition government in the republic .

 :hattip

[Streetwalker]

You might think so. But there are already six formal cross boarder governmental North/South implementation bodies (which even ran satisfactorily while the NI government was suspended). There are also six all-Ireland implementation bodies covering: waterways, food safety, development and funding plans (probably under review due to Brexit), Irish and Scots language promotion, whole of Ireland trade, and maritime coastal navigating aid bodies.



The six formal cross boarder areas of responsibility, where co-operation must be agreed together, are: agriculture, education, environment, tourism, and transport.



As separate trading arrangements from the UK mainland are now Brexit policy, can you really see a majority in the North wanting to maintain the fiction of being part of the UK...?

All well and good posty and I would agree that there  will be a move toward a united Ireland from the south and a good chunk of the north sometime in the future . That doesn't change the fact though that it is the North the will instigate a united Ireland referendum not a condition of any coalition government in the republic .

[patman post]

Why ?  It will be the decision of the North of when and if there is a united Ireland . Eire cant just hold a referendum without the Norths consent

You might think so. But there are already six formal cross boarder governmental North/South implementation bodies (which even ran satisfactorily while the NI government was suspended). There are also six all-Ireland implementation bodies covering: waterways, food safety, development and funding plans (probably under review due to Brexit), Irish and Scots language promotion, whole of Ireland trade, and maritime coastal navigating aid bodies.



The six formal cross boarder areas of responsibility, where co-operation must be agreed together, are: agriculture, education, environment, tourism, and transport.



As separate trading arrangements from the UK mainland are now Brexit policy, can you really see a majority in the North wanting to maintain the fiction of being part of the UK...?

[Streetwalker]

 Though I still think a referendum on a United Ireland will eventually be a requirement for any coalition to take power...

Why ?  It will be the decision of the North of when and if there is a united Ireland . Eire cant just hold a referendum without the Norths consent

[Conchúr]

You mean they're still living in the past

Absolutely — a lot of them are.

[T00ts]

You mean they're still living in the past

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[cromwell]

The government remains in place until the next government is formed.  Certainly, the limbo is not helpful, though it is necessary and continuity of government is maintained until a new Taoiseach is nominated and a new coalition formed.  



If Mary Lou McDonald was to become Taoiseach, well, bear in mind that many supporters of her party view Leo Varadkar as a 'west Brit' who is too sympathetic to British interests.

You mean they're still living in the past

[Conchúr]

I see Varadkar has conceded and is prepared to stand back and let Sinn Fein try to form a government. I can see Ireland without a government for months. Not a good time for a lack of direction until they sort something out.

The government remains in place until the next government is formed.  Certainly, the limbo is not helpful, though it is necessary and continuity of government is maintained until a new Taoiseach is nominated and a new coalition formed.  



If Mary Lou McDonald was to become Taoiseach, well, bear in mind that many supporters of her party view Leo Varadkar as a 'west Brit' who is too sympathetic to British interests.

[patman post]

Belgium ran for months without a government. Ireland could probably do the same. Though I still think a referendum on a United Ireland will eventually be a requirement for any coalition to take power...

[T00ts]

I see Varadkar has conceded and is prepared to stand back and let Sinn Fein try to form a government. I can see Ireland without a government for months. Not a good time for a lack of direction until they sort something out.