George Floyd Riots

[Thomas]

If the people of Bristol vote in a properly organised referendum to re-instate the statue, I'll respect that.

here you go javert , painting here for your lefty bonfire.....



https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/C01E/production/_104028194_mediaitem104028193.jpg">



John glassford and his family. Let you look him up before you put the picture on the liberal lefty taliban bonfire. :thdwn:

[Thomas]

It might be better if Trump is reelected, is China worse than Russia? Maybe... I want both of them disqualified and banned if I had my way.

i like the russians and the chinese myself.



They havent ever done anything wrong to me or mine.

[Borg Refinery]

Well i hope you arent too upset if he does win. You seem terribly interested.



For me its a bit of fun.



Of course i member the last time anglo lefties told me their side was going to win last december and stop the evil of brexit and look what happened so forgive me if i dont take your prediction that seriously. You seem out of touch with folk across the world.......

My prediction?



My prediction was not stated. I simply declared my rabid anti-Trump bigotry if it can be called that.  8-) No apologies will be made for that.



Now, he seems finished to me, but so was Theresa May but she still limped along regardless. If you saw my earlier post re the satirical article, or bothered to read the conservative review link you'd see that IT states Biden's a Chinese shill.



Like I said, Biden will wreck himself by opening his mouth - just like Hillary did.



I wouldn't be surprised if he forgets his own name by next month. Or let's slip something totally racist..



Snopes

Did Joe Biden Say He Didn't Want His Kids Growing Up in a 'Racial Jungle'?

The 2020 Democratic presidential candidate's history with busing has haunted him on the campaign trail.

BETHANIA PALMA

PUBLISHED 10 MARCH 2020



Claim

Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden once said he didn't want his kids to grow up in a "racial jungle" in regards to desegregation.



Rating

Correct Attribution

Correct Attribution

About this rating



(shrugs)



An avowed pro-segregationist (and much worse) in the blue corner, an avowed everything-Biden-is-but-much-much-worse in the other.



I'm glad I'm not stuck over there, but yeah I'm interested..and?



It might be better if Trump is reelected, is China worse than Russia? Maybe... I want both of them disqualified and banned if I had my way.

[Thomas]

You seem rather interested in yank politics after all, no shame in it..I am a little interested too.  8-)

i hate yank politics. Its  a bit like brexit though , this constant left wing bashing of trump ( like brexit) has me coming out in favour of the underdog.



Hilary got more votes than trump last time , but he still won.



I wouldnt bet against him , or the western worlds hatred of the liberal left......

[Thomas]

There are not many buildings anywhere Thomas that were built before 1833 that didn't have some slave labour on it .  Thinking about it the times I got knocked in the 80's by skint subbies I might have been one myself .



Your right though the disgraceful behaviour by the fringe movements that come out of the woodwork at every gathering speak for nobody but themselves and  the undemocratic losers who have no other argument but anarchy .

totally agree mate.



Lefty liberal mob rule. They get outvoted at the ballot box so resort to whipping up a few drugged up feck wits and middle class belters to run around smashing things in frustration at not getting their way. Feck sake if trump wins we could just have world war three the end of the year the state of these cants.



Time to trim the herd i say. :thdwn:  :rant:

[Thomas]

You never know, but..

Well i hope you arent too upset if he does win. You seem terribly interested.



For me its a bit of fun.



Of course i member the last time anglo lefties told me their side was going to win last december and stop the evil of brexit and look what happened so forgive me if i dont take your prediction that seriously. You seem out of touch with folk across the world.......

[Thomas]

If the people of Bristol vote in a properly organised referendum to re-instate the statue, I'll respect that.

No you wont. You can easily try and get out of democracy by complaining of some aspect of it you didnt like ....ie one of the organisers lied or some such nonsense you employed during brexit discsussions. No one takes you seriously over democracy javert.



Anyway onward...

Also, a statue is not the same as a building - the statue serves no practical purpose and is there only to glorify the reputation of the person commemorated. It is not used for practical purposes like meetings and such.

Rubbish.



The statue was torn down because it was seen as a symbol representing the historical slave trade. As i pointed out , there are plenty buildings in my city of glasgow  , practically the whole merchant city , that was built off the back of slavery.



The same could be said probably of every city on the western sea board of europe.



There are also plenty of statues on display of the tobacco lords who made their money from the slave plantations. The same again could be said of historical individuals across europe.



Where does it stop for the middle class lefty wing taliban and their statue destroying?

Also as I said, I don't really agree with criminal damage and I suspect the people who actually pulled it down will be charged and convicted.



I'm also not really in favour of such things because it allows those who want to excuse systematic discrimination in society and preserver the status quo, to talk about how terrible it is to break a statue rather than addressing the real issue.

There is no real issue. How does anarchist protests and statue destruction in England or scotland stop american police racially killing black men , or black men kiilling even more black men?

All that said, if this statue is so important to the historic reputation of England, no doubt it will be re-instated after overwhelming public demand to put it back up again.

It should be  , but it wont. However , im happy with the damage you lefty liberals have done, the tide of opinion is massively against you from what i can see.



Slavery has been practiced for more than 2000 years that scholastic research can penetrate in these islands and elsewhere.



As someone who loves history , there are references to it from the roman times ( majority slaves were white), both dublin in ireland and rouen in france where centres of the scandinavian slave trade ( trading mainly in white slaves) , the english doomsday book recorded by the normans showed us ten % of englands popualtion  in 1086 were  white slaves , King james 4th of scotland kept moorish slaves ( pleanty of statues of king james 4th in scotland)and so on and so forth.



Its a part of human history , that seems to have been taken over by the black victimhood card despite the fact here in the yookay , black slaves were used for only around a quarter of the last 2000 years ,and the majority of the rest white slaves.



We are fed up listening to you and your ilk javert. What next  , destroying every reference and symbol you can find to the unplalatable aspects of history that dont fit your liberal lefty world?



You are nothing but left wing zealots who disgust me to the core of my feckin being.



The lefty taliban. A feckin walking PR disaster.

[papasmurf]

It will be quite interesting to see what happens if Priti Patel gets the police to start going out arresting everyone who participated in the protests over the weekend.

Just where has she stated that?

[Javert]

It will be quite interesting to see what happens if Priti Patel gets the police to start going out arresting everyone who participated in the protests over the weekend.  We will see whether this stops the protests or actually makes them worse.  



For sure, they don't have the resources to seek out and arrest 100,000 people.  Technically, they were all breaking the law as protesting is I think illegal right now under the Coronavirus legisliation.

[Borg Refinery]

The biggest threat to Joe Biden is..... Joe Biden.



It's come to something when satire like this is closer to the truth than news.  :-P



https://scrappleface.com/blog/2020/03/02/joe-biden-drops-out-of-race-endorses-biden/">https://scrappleface.com/blog/2020/03/0 ... ses-biden/">https://scrappleface.com/blog/2020/03/02/joe-biden-drops-out-of-race-endorses-biden/

[Javert]

Ignoring that sort of mandate is right up the street of some on this forum like javert.



Remember javerts golden rule , democracy only applies when it suits his view as we learned from brexit.

If the people of Bristol vote in a properly organised referendum to re-instate the statue, I'll respect that.



Also, a statue is not the same as a building - the statue serves no practical purpose and is there only to glorify the reputation of the person commemorated.  It is not used for practical purposes like meetings and such.



Also as I said, I don't really agree with criminal damage and I suspect the people who actually pulled it down will be charged and convicted.  



I'm also not really in favour of such things because it allows those who want to excuse systematic discrimination in society and preserver the status quo, to talk about how terrible it is to break a statue rather than addressing the real issue.



I would expect exactly the same if there were large scale protests by young white working class people demanding change - if they damaged so much as a brick, it would be all about "hooligans" and so on rather than addressing any of their concerns.



It's quite a tricky question because there is also an argument that if you look at past history, peaceful protest has rarely achieved any kind of change, and some level of destruction, or at least peaceful law breaking, has sometimes done the job.



All that said, if this statue is so important to the historic reputation of England, no doubt it will be re-instated after overwhelming public demand to put it back up again.

[Borg Refinery]

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/05/trump-reelection-2020-odds-biden-coronavirus-economy.html">https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/05 ... onomy.html">https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/05/trump-reelection-2020-odds-biden-coronavirus-economy.html



I think he might do it. 8-)

You never know, but..

The model has predicted the winner of the popular vote in 16 of the past 18 elections and is a complete reversal of what the model was predicting before the coronavirus outbreak hit the US.



Before the public health crisis, Oxford Economics predicted that Mr Trump would win about 55 per cent of the vote.



"It would take nothing short of an economic miracle for pocketbooks to favour Trump," Oxford Economics wrote in the report



It added that the economy will be a "nearly insurmountable obstacle for Trump come November".



The forecaster said that the downturn has emerged in light of the poor economic backdrop the country now faces, and the model assumes that this would still be the case by the time of the election.



"The economy would still be in a worse state than at the depth of the Great Depression," Oxford Economics said.

https://ibb.co/P9dcvT0">



The USC/LA Times Dornsife poll is the most accurate and predicted Trump's win over Hills, have a look at it most recently even before COVID & Floyd etc..



https://imgbb.com/">



Now look at all these.  :-P



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_2020_United_States_presidential_election">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationw ... l_election">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_2020_United_States_presidential_election



FOX, YouGov, IPSOS etc.... a sea of blue...



You seem rather interested in yank politics after all, no shame in it..I am a little interested too.  8-)



Let's not forget Biden's corrupt links to China and the probability that they're backing him and pulling strings in the background.



https://www.conservativereview.com/news/biden-china-ties-major-threat-us-national-security/">https://www.conservativereview.com/news ... -security/">https://www.conservativereview.com/news/biden-china-ties-major-threat-us-national-security/



It's Trump (Russia) v Biden (China).. who will win? Two awful candidates just like in the yookay eh.

[Streetwalker]

What next streetwalker , do you think the luvvies will be popping up to glesga to start pulling down this...



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Wfm_goma_glasgow.jpg/220px-Wfm_goma_glasgow.jpg">



FFS. Glasgow was built off the back of the slaves toiling in the plantations for the tobacco industry.







Absolutely disgracefull seeing those left wing luvvie zealots pulling that statue down and throwing it in the river.



The lefty taliban eh?



Shouty minority lefty zealots that are yet again trying to speak for the rest of us , and failing badly.

There are not many buildings anywhere Thomas that were built before 1833 that didn't have some slave labour on it .  Thinking about it the times I got knocked in the 80's by skint subbies I might have been one myself .



Your right though the disgraceful behaviour by the fringe movements that come out of the woodwork at every gathering speak for nobody but themselves and  the undemocratic losers who have no other argument but anarchy .

[Thomas]

The poll was 56% in favour of retaining it.



Which in a city happy to ignore 52% is a clear mandate to act ....

Ignoring that sort of mandate is right up the street of some on this forum like javert.



Remember javerts golden rule , democracy only applies when it suits his view as we learned from brexit.

[Thomas]

Good point, ISIS are fond of tearing down statues and icons.

Zealots are the same the world over john.



Feckin disgracefull .