Hotel owner 'thought it was a joke' when Home Office asked him to house migrants

[patman post]

I watched something the other day that from memory listed what illegal immigrants get on arrival.

Free mobile phone, 3/4 star hotel accommodation, free health care from GPs who leave their own surgeries and their waiting patients to earn the extra cash 1/2 days a week seeing immigrants in their area. 3 free meals a day, £40 per week. Freedom to come and go as they wish.

If unemployment is so low here and we need workers why aren't they expected to work?

The point is, they're not allowed to work.

I don't know about three and four star hotels or free mobile phones. Accommodation I've seen is grim and payg phone can be had for under £20, though why they'd be supplied seems a mystery.

There must be some way that the work restriction could be altered — if only to allow them to work caring for others and the premises, of those in the same boat as themselves.

That could free up legit members of the workforce for employment elsewhere...

[Sheepy]

I suggest you stop watching neo-nazi propaganda. (seriously.)
More at link with embedded live links:-

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06847/SN06847.pdf

Members may be contacted by constituents complaining that 'illegal immigrants/refugees' in Britain receive significantly more financial assistance from the Government than UK pensioners, citing an email. The Library has produced a briefing, ( https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn05621/ ) Viral emails protesting about financial assistance for "illegal immigrants/refugees living in Britain", which looks at the origins of this email, examines the claims it makes, and gives information on actual entitlements for immigrants and pensioners in the United Kingdom.

https://fullfact.org/online/pensioners-refugees-illegal-immigrants/

When 96% of people tell you the trauma they are receiving from mass immigration and you still do it for decades, while the usual suspects create mayhem then cry wolf when people turn on them around cities in the UK you should know something has gone awry. But then the globalists agenda is much bigger than anything they tell you is anything you think you are voting for. 

[papasmurf]

I watched something the other day that from memory listed what illegal immigrants get on arrival.

Free mobile phone, 3/4 star hotel accommodation, free health care from GPs who leave their own surgeries and their waiting patients to earn the extra cash 1/2 days a week seeing immigrants in their area. 3 free meals a day, £40 per week. Freedom to come and go as they wish.

If unemployment is so low here and we need workers why aren't they expected to work?

I suggest you stop watching neo-nazi propaganda. (seriously.)
More at link with embedded live links:-

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06847/SN06847.pdf

Members may be contacted by constituents complaining that 'illegal immigrants/refugees' in Britain receive significantly more financial assistance from the Government than UK pensioners, citing an email. The Library has produced a briefing, ( https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn05621/ ) Viral emails protesting about financial assistance for "illegal immigrants/refugees living in Britain", which looks at the origins of this email, examines the claims it makes, and gives information on actual entitlements for immigrants and pensioners in the United Kingdom.

https://fullfact.org/online/pensioners-refugees-illegal-immigrants/

[T00ts]

I watched something the other day that from memory listed what illegal immigrants get on arrival.

Free mobile phone, 3/4 star hotel accommodation, free health care from GPs who leave their own surgeries and their waiting patients to earn the extra cash 1/2 days a week seeing immigrants in their area. 3 free meals a day, £40 per week. Freedom to come and go as they wish.

If unemployment is so low here and we need workers why aren't they expected to work? 

[Streetwalker]

Whether the UK is in or out of the EU only alters the number of European nationals living and working here.

Im sure there is more to being out of the EU than the workers that provides 

People from elsewhere around the globe have been coming to the UK for many decades — way before the UK joined the EEC — and continue to do so. No difference in that then!

Yep , people were asked to come to fill jobs that brits couldnt or wouldnt do . EU migration was a free for all that suppressed wages in some sectors .  Am happy to go back to how it was pre EU 

There is low unemployment because there is now a smaller pool of people looking for work. Companies are seeking staff, but can't get them. 

Brexit is working then ,if companies put up wages maybe we can get to zero unemployment . (I thought you were a tory ?)

 And that isn't benefitting workers and pushing up pay, because profits are low and running costs are high and rising...

Profits have been running out of control to the detriment of wages to the working man ,there needs to be an adjustment of who gets what out of company profits  ( my far right wing mask is slipping) 

Up the workers !

[Scott777]

I can't recall a racist who didn't turn out to be a Brexiteer. 

But from my perspective, even before that's turned out to be the case, I saw Nigel Farage's launch of Leave EU's Breaking Point poster legitimise the anti foreigner sentiment that already existed across Left and Right in UK politics. It made it the central factor in the campaign for Vote Leave. 

Even Dominic Cummings acknowledged immigration became increasingly central.

The Brexit press supported Johnson's idea of managing immigration (but with no ideas how) by crudely alarmist propaganda highlighting a supposed threat of 75 million Muslim Turks — the entire population — coming to the UK.

Evidence? Are any of the comments and reports in the following (or the many more out there) untrue...?

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/immigration-politics-brexit-referendum/
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2018/02/22/brexit-was-a-vote-for-national-control-and-against-immigration-labour-must-fully-embrace-it/.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-latest-news-leave-eu-immigration-main-reason-european-union-survey-a7811651.html
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/uk-public-opinion-toward-immigration-overall-attitudes-and-level-of-concern/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/immigration-worries-drove-the-brexit-vote-then-attitudes-changed/2018/11/16/c216b6a2-bcdb-11e8-8243-f3ae9c99658a_story.html

Maybe remainers are better at hiding their racism?

I think you misread what I said.  I didn't say immigration was not a big factor.  I was asking for evidence that racism was a factor in leave voters.

[cromwell]

I never assumed you were one of the 10 percent hardliner anti non-White immigration, who voted Leave only because they were hardliner anti non-White immigration, that pushed Leave over the 50% mark.

And illegal immigration does need to be dealt with. But regaining sovereignty, blue passports, and extra customs clearance procedures isn't doing it, is it...?

That's down to the govt,though being in the eu certainly wasn't doing it was it and why so many hard right parties are gaining ground within.

And why people like this get elected 
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-10-12/german-far-right-politician-condemned-for-dancing-on-holocaust-memorial

[patman post]

Exactly how much evidence do you have of the numbers of "anti non-White immigration" voters?  Regaining sovereignty doesn't need to do it.  However, losing sovereignty will certainly prevent it (applying a better immigration process).

Firstly, I don't believe that all Brexiteers racist bigots.

Nevertheless, I can't recall a racist who didn't turn out to be a Brexiteer. 

But from my perspective, even before that's turned out to be the case, I saw Nigel Farage's launch of Leave EU's Breaking Point poster legitimise the anti foreigner sentiment that already existed across Left and Right in UK politics. It made it the central factor in the campaign for Vote Leave. 

Even Dominic Cummings acknowledged immigration became increasingly central.

The Brexit press supported Johnson's idea of managing immigration (but with no ideas how) by crudely alarmist propaganda highlighting a supposed threat of 75 million Muslim Turks — the entire population — coming to the UK.

Evidence? Are any of the comments and reports in the following (or the many more out there) untrue...?

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/immigration-politics-brexit-referendum/
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2018/02/22/brexit-was-a-vote-for-national-control-and-against-immigration-labour-must-fully-embrace-it/.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-latest-news-leave-eu-immigration-main-reason-european-union-survey-a7811651.html
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/uk-public-opinion-toward-immigration-overall-attitudes-and-level-of-concern/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/immigration-worries-drove-the-brexit-vote-then-attitudes-changed/2018/11/16/c216b6a2-bcdb-11e8-8243-f3ae9c99658a_story.html

[papasmurf]

And why can't they get them?  Is it just a shortage of people?

In Cornwall and similar places there is now nowhere for staff to live, due to second homes, holiday lets and AirBnB.

[Scott777]

Companies are seeking staff, but can't get them. 

And why can't they get them?  Is it just a shortage of people?

[Scott777]

I never assumed you were one of the 10 percent hardliner anti non-White immigration, who voted Leave only because they were hardliner anti non-White immigration, that pushed Leave over the 50% mark.

And illegal immigration does need to be dealt with. But regaining sovereignty, blue passports, and extra customs clearance procedures isn't doing it, is it...?

Exactly how much evidence do you have of the numbers of "anti non-White immigration" voters?  Regaining sovereignty doesn't need to do it.  However, losing sovereignty will certainly prevent it (applying a better immigration process).

[patman post]

You and I have disagreed heatedly on occasions, most recently over the popularity or unpopularity of Labour's 2017 manifesto policies. I am far further to the left than you. But for a self-confessed Tory supporter you do speak a lot of sense very often. And this is no exception. Someone who thinks rationally rather than emotionally. I also think you share a certain quality with me, ie you say what you believe in regardless of any party allegience. I can respect that.

In short I like your posts and contributions, our occasionally heated disagreements notwithstanding.

Thanks, but I hope we continue to argue — unless, of course, you begin to realise that Socialism isn't really the answer.

When that happens, there might be hope for us all...

[Scott777]

Incorrect, the rate of new house construction is not a primary factor in the rate of migration to the UK.

Non sequitur.  I didn't say house construction is a factor in migration at all.  If migration is at the current constant level, then you would need to constantly build houses at an equally high rate, forever......

[patman post]

Nobody has ever suggested chucking anyone out posty nor as cromwell has said immigration being about skin colour . It was about open borders and control of them which we have through legal routes .

The illegal routes are still a problem that the government has failed to sort out . The Farage poster has been proved to be correct , the open borders of Europe allowing migrants to arrive on our doorstep unapposed .
Record unemployment figures out this week ,lowest for 50 years would rather suggest it has .

Whether the UK is in or out of the EU only alters the number of European nationals living and working here.

People from elsewhere around the globe have been coming to the UK for many decades — way before the UK joined the EEC — and continue to do so. No difference in that then!

There is low unemployment because there is now a smaller pool of people looking for work. Companies are seeking staff, but can't get them. And that isn't benefitting workers and pushing up pay, because profits are low and running costs are high and rising...

[srb7677]

I never assumed you were one of the 10 percent hardliner anti non-White immigration, who voted Leave only because they were hardliner anti non-White immigration, that pushed Leave over the 50% mark.

And illegal immigration does need to be dealt with. But regaining sovereignty, blue passports, and extra customs clearance procedures isn't doing it, is it...?

You and I have disagreed heatedly on occasions, most recently over the popularity or unpopularity of Labour's 2017 manifesto policies. I am far further to the left than you. But for a self-confessed Tory supporter you do speak a lot of sense very often. And this is no exception. Someone who thinks rationally rather than emotionally. I also think you share a certain quality with me, ie you say what you believe in regardless of any party allegience. I can respect that.

In short I like your posts and contributions, our occasionally heated disagreements notwithstanding.